Building Gadgets: How to Connect Momentary Switches & LEDs

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around building a custom IR pen that incorporates momentary switches and LEDs. Participants explore various methods and materials for integrating these components into a pen-like device, addressing both design challenges and construction techniques.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the challenge of fitting a square momentary switch into a round pen casing and seeks advice on how to achieve this integration.
  • Another suggests that a switch can be constructed from two pieces of metal and a spring, recommending materials like beryllium copper or brass for their properties.
  • Scavenging switches from existing products is proposed as a practical solution, along with the idea of padding a smaller microswitch to fit the pen barrel.
  • A participant mentions the possibility of using a non-conductive block of material to etch current paths, expressing uncertainty about the etching process.
  • Discussion includes the idea of modifying a mechanical pencil to accommodate the necessary components, highlighting space constraints for the battery and wiring.
  • A reference to MIT's class "How to Make (Almost) Anything" is provided as a resource for learning about building gadgets.
  • One participant mentions an existing illuminated ballpoint pen that could serve as inspiration for the design, noting its mechanism for light activation.
  • Humorously, a suggestion is made to use lots of glue, specifically conductive epoxy, for securing electronic components.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of ideas and approaches without reaching a consensus on the best method for constructing the IR pen. Multiple competing views on materials and techniques remain present throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding specific techniques, such as etching, and the feasibility of fitting components within the limited space of a pen casing. There are also varying opinions on the best materials to use for constructing switches and securing components.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for hobbyists interested in electronics, DIY enthusiasts looking to build custom gadgets, and individuals seeking creative solutions to design challenges in small-scale projects.

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Yes, the subject sounds stupid but the question is even stupider!

ever since I was a kid I've liked building things, especially with electronics but I've never had any real education towards it etc etc no skills blah blah. Right now I want to build an IR pen for a project that was posted a while ago on the forum. The idea is to make a pen like:

http://johnnylee.net/projects/wii/pen.jpg

The problem is every momentary switch I see online, like http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=8720" that is actually low-profile enough is build like a square, for lack of better terminology. The button is suppose to be in the pen so that you can press the button easily as if you were going to write with the pen. The button is square, the pen is hollow and round. How do you put this together? Also, the LED is smaller then the open end of the pen casing so I need to figure out how to make it fit more snug...

Where do I learn to make crazy cool gadgets!? I need some sort of ... metal... that's like playdough but its metal!
 
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a switch like that is just two pieces of metal and a spring. the spring could actually be one of the strips of metal. you just need materials with the right shape and characteristics. springy. corrosion-resistant. conductive. something like beryllium copper might be ideal, but brass maybe, or steel. just whatever you can salvage out of the broken electronics bin and can bend/cut/file/solder in place. mostly you just need imagination, tho.
 
You could try scavenging a switch from some pre-existing product. I do that all the time. Or, you could simply build one. The easiest way would be to get a regular square housing microswitch that's smaller than the pen barrel and pad it to fit.
As for the material you want, I recommend JB Weld. It's a binary epoxy that you stir together and it becomes a semi-thick paste. When it hardens, it's as strong as steel. You can mend trailer hitches with it.
 
I was thinking of some sort of non-conductive block of material that i could etch some paths for the current and glue that into the pen casing I have. Too bad I don't know how to etch... Then I could just cut away at the material so it fits into the pen haha
 
i've actually got a cheap mechanical pencil here that has a button built into the side. the spring is in the tip where the LED would be located. you'd have to build a new spring under the button after removing the force-transfering mechanism and still leave room for the return wire to pass. but the battery would have to be smaller than even a AAA to fit in the eraser/lead cavity, even with the eraser holder stripped out. maybe look for something similar to alter, like... a penlight? ;)

https://www.pentelstore.com/index.php?grp=759
 
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Your question "How do you build stuff?" reminded me of MIT's class, How to Make (Almost) Anything. I first came across this class when someone linked to this guy's http://fab.media.mit.edu/classes/MIT/863.08/people/ryan/week13.html" site and scroll down to their classes (the guy I linked to was in the '08 class). I thought you might be interested in it. I wish I could've taken part in a class like this. Super cool it is.
 
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I'm not sure of what you want, but there is an illuminated ball point on the market somewhere (I have one, which I got from a neighbor). It has a button at the end which turns on and off a light in the barrel (possibly a LED). The writing point is extended and retracted by twisting the barrel. The light is in the upper part and projects down through the barrel which is transparent. This could probably be replaced with an opaque barrel which has an opening in the end. I don't know how to get one though.

KM
 
Just use lots of glue... For electronics, that conductive epoxy! (just kidding)
 

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