Built in CPU motherboard, good ?

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The PCChips M841LU motherboard features a SIS740 chipset and supports various memory types, including PC133 SDRAM and PC2100 DDR266. It includes multiple expansion slots, built-in audio, LAN capabilities, and a pre-installed AMD Duron Pro 1400+ processor. Discussions highlight concerns about the quality and upgradeability of motherboards with integrated components, particularly from PCChips. Many users advise against purchasing motherboards with built-in CPUs due to potential limitations in performance and upgrade options. Onboard components can simplify setup but may hinder future upgrades, especially for gaming or high-performance tasks. For general use, a more integrated motherboard may be cost-effective, while enthusiasts are encouraged to opt for separate components for better customization and longevity.
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Mainboard: PCChips M841LU SIS740 Chipset Micro-ATX.
2xPC133 SDRAM DIMM Slot,
2xPC2100 DDR266 SDRAM DIMM Slot,
3xPCI Slot + 1xAMR Slot,
2xPS/2 + 1xParallel + 1xSerial + 1xDisplay,
3xAudio + 1xGame + 4xUSB2.0 + 1xLAN100Mbps.

Comes with Built-In:
AMD Duron Pro 1400+ Processor with Heat Sink & Cooler Fan.
C-MEDIA CMI9738 Sound 4-Channel.
SIS 740 Display 64MB AGP4X.
SIS 900 LAN 100Mbps.
SIS USB2.0 4-Ports Ready.



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Yeah, I've never heard of a PC motherboard with the processor built-in: there's no point since the CPU is manufactured independently.
 
PC chips and others do permenantly attach the CPU to their motherboards sometimes.

Are they any good? Until one or the other is outdated or fails.

Also, I have heard it said that some of these companies overclock(push the chip to a higher then rated clock speed) the chip (part of the reason they are packaged as a single unit I think). I believe this is only legal if they inform the purchaser that they have done this.

These packaged CPU/Mobos are cheaper, but would I buy one? No.
 
I've tried PCChips motherboards.
Don't bother.
They are poor quality, restricted upgrade possibilities and their customer service is virtually nonexistant.

The only things I would ever recommend "on-board" would be audio if it is at least 16 bit with a midi port and maybe a modem (56k) or lan NIC if it can do at least 10 and 100 Mb.

Don't buy a Mobo with onboard video, the videocard is probably the best thing to ever upgrade other than extra memory/harddrive. Also, even though I typically get a new mobo and cpu on an upgrade, I personally wouldn't buy a mobo that I couldn't take out the cpu, just in case.
 
I have heard it said that some of these companies overclock(push the chip to a higher then rated clock speed) the chip

aka Alienware
 
You should buy according to your needs...althought I agree totally with J, PCChips is a poor choice.

For an more hands on type of approach with your computer, get as few compnents onboard as possible. The benefits of this are the fact that you can upgrade easily, saving you money in the future, and you get to customize your PC a bit more.

The more you get built into the motherboard, the less time before you have to get a new PC to stay with the times. Especially if you do gaming/high-end graphics work. However, if word processing/web browsing is your goal, a more consolidated motherboard may not be a bad choice, due to the (generally) lower price.

Summary:

Upgradability/Customization = Buy everything seperate
Ease of setup/less work = Onboard everything

My two cents ;)

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