Calc Arc Length 0 to 8, sqrt(1+x)

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The discussion revolves around calculating the arc length of the function \( f(x) = \sqrt{x} \) from 0 to 8 using the arc length formula. Participants are exploring the integration process and the application of variable substitution.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the correct formula for arc length and the differentiation of the function. There is an exploration of the integration steps, including a proposed variable substitution to simplify the integral. Questions arise regarding the accuracy of the limits after substitution and the resulting calculations.

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The discussion is active, with participants checking each other's steps and suggesting methods for integration. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to adjust limits after a variable change, but there is no explicit consensus on the final outcome or resolution of the problem.

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Participants note that they have not yet learned about trigonometric substitution, which may affect their approach to the problem. There is also a mention of a discrepancy in the expected answer, prompting further investigation into the calculations.

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Find the arc length of [PLAIN]http://www4d.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP595419ebfac4cg3g1925000036iede4e50653655?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=4&w=65&h=36 from 0 to 8Formula for Arc Length:
integral from a to b of sqrt(1+[f(x)]^2)
Attempt:

f'(x) = 2/3 * 3/2 * x ^(1/2)
f'(x) = x^(1/2)

integral from 0 to 8 of sqrt(1+[x^(1/2)]^2)

integral from 0 to 8 of sqrt(1+x)


After this point I find myself lost.

I know from searching online and such the next step should read:

2/3*(1+x)^(3/2) from 0 to 8

but I am unsure of how you get to this step? Keep in mind we have yet to learn trig substitution.
 
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MathWarrior said:
Formula for Arc Length:
integral from a to b of sqrt(1+[f(x)]^2)

you mean
integral from a to b of sqrt(1+[f'(x)]^2)
 
or
[tex]\int_b^a \sqrt(1+[f'(x)]^2) dx[/tex]
 
so reapeating your steps to check
[tex]f(x) = \frac{2}{3}x^{\frac{3}{2}}+1[/tex]
[tex]f(x) = x^{\frac{1}{2}}[/tex]

arc length is then
[tex]\int_b^a \sqrt(1+[fsingle-quote(x)]^2) dx[/tex]
[tex]\int_0^8 \sqrt(1+(x^{\frac{1}{2}})^2) dx[/tex]
[tex]\int_0^8 \sqrt(1+x) dx[/tex]

which all looks good

so how about trying a variable change (translation) to integrate this?
 
variable change (translation) to integrate this?

Would that be when you substitute?

u = 1+x
du/dx = 1

dx = du ?

integral from 0 to 8 of u^1/2 du?

then you get...

(u^3/2)/(3/2) du => 2/3*u^(3/2) => 2/3*(1+x)^(3/2)from 0 to 8

then you get

2/3*(1+8)^(3/2) =

2/3*9^(3/2) then the answer comes out to 18 which isn't right it supposedly 52/3 So how did i mess up?
 
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You forgot to use the lower limit.
 
ty ^_^
 
so you need to chnage the limits for the variable change
 

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