Calculate Average Shear Stress in Glue Bond - 50kN, 80mm

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the average shear stress in a glue bond subjected to a force of 50 kN, with a specific focus on the dimensions provided (80 mm). Participants explore different approaches to the calculation, addressing the forces acting on the glued surfaces and the appropriate units for stress.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes using the formula stress = force/area, applying it to the given force and dimensions.
  • Another participant corrects the initial approach, emphasizing the need to consider the equilibrium of forces acting on the plates and the shear forces on the glued surfaces.
  • A later reply questions whether to subtract the shearing stress from the forces, suggesting a different calculation method.
  • Further clarification is provided regarding the forces acting on the top plate, leading to the conclusion that the average shear stress can be calculated using the force of 25 kN divided by the shear area.
  • Participants discuss the importance of unit conversion, with one noting the result in kN/mm² and suggesting conversion to Pascals.
  • Another participant expresses confusion regarding the units, indicating a preference for working in pounds per square inch and noting potential discrepancies in understanding SI units.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need to consider the forces acting on the plates and the correct approach to calculating average shear stress. However, there is some confusion regarding the units and the specific calculations, indicating that multiple views remain on the correct method and interpretation.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the assumptions made in the calculations, particularly concerning the equilibrium of forces and the interpretation of shear stress in relation to the glued surfaces. Additionally, the discussion highlights potential misunderstandings related to unit conversions.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in mechanics of materials, structural engineering, or anyone looking to understand shear stress calculations in adhesive bonds.

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I need to determine the average shear stress developed in the glue bond.
P=50kN and P2=80mm
http://users.on.net/~rohanlal/Untitled99.jpg

My attempt:
stress=force/area
stress=(50/(200*80))+((50/2)/(200*80))*2
Is this correct?
 
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Ry122 said:
I need to determine the average shear stress developed in the glue bond.
P=50kN and P2=80mm
http://users.on.net/~rohanlal/Untitled99.jpg

My attempt:
stress=force/area
stress=(50/(200*80))+((50/2)/(200*80))*2
Is this correct?
No, the 50 kN force on the left (sandwiched) plate is balanced by the two forces, on the top and bottom plate. How much shear force does each glued surface (top and bottom) see? Don't forget to use proper units of stress.
 
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So I have to subtract the shearing stress from the two forces?
Is this correct then?
stress=(50/(200*80))-((50/2)/(200*80))*2 Mpa
 
No, you are not looking correctly at the forces involved. The plates are in equilibrium (sum of forces in x direction =0). The 50kN applied force at the left end, pointing left, is balnced by the two 25kN forces at the right end, pointing right. This is given, and is in accord with Newton's first law. Now draw a free body diagram of the top plate only...isolate it and examine the forces on it. There is a 25kN force acting at the right end of this top plate, pointing right. The top plate is in equilibrium, so you know that all the forces acting on the top plate must add to 0. So what must the force of the glued surface be on the left end of the top plate, to balance the 25kN force? Once you determine that force, the avg shear stress is that force divided by the shear area you have noted. The same applies for the bottom plate.
 
So is it just
stress=25/(200*80)
 
Ry122 said:
So is it just
stress=25/(200*80)
Yes, correct, that is the average shear stress in the glue bond on the top, and it is also the average shear stress in the glue bond on the bottom. But watch your units! Your result is in kN/mm^2, you might want to convert it to Pascals (N/m^2).
 
is it currently in mega pascals?
 
Ry122 said:
is it currently in mega pascals?
Looks like it's giga-pascals. I work in USA units of pounds per square inch, such that I don't get a good feel for the SI units, and there are so many decimals to confuse you. 25kN/16000mm^2 = .00156kN/mm^2, which is .00156 GPa, or 1.56 MPa, if I did the math right.
 

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