Calculate E Field at x=6m | Graph E Field in x Direction from -3m to 11m

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The problem involves calculating the electric field at a specific point due to two point charges and graphing the electric field in the x direction over a specified range. The subject area is electrostatics, focusing on electric fields generated by point charges.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the electric field using the formula E=kq/r and the significance of vector direction in electric fields. There are questions about the distances used in the calculations and the signs of the electric field values at different points.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the correct application of vector principles in electric fields. Some guidance has been offered regarding the representation of the electric field and the adjustment of signs in calculations. There is recognition of the need to correctly interpret the behavior of the electric field around the charges.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of vector fields and the implications of charge positions on the electric field's direction and magnitude. There is an acknowledgment of potential misunderstandings regarding the graphical representation of the electric field.

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Homework Statement


2 charges of 4x10^-6 C are located at the origin and at x=8m y=0m.
Find the E field at x=6m. and graph the e field in the x direction with respect to x from -3m<x<11m


Homework Equations


E=kq/r


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sorry, idk how to use subscripts. If you see a number after a letter that means its a sub, E1 is for the charge at the origin.
E=E1-E2=kq1/r1^2 - kq2/r2^2
=(9x10^9)(4x10^-6)/2^2 - (9x10^9)(4x10^-6)/6^2= -8000 N/C


I attached my graph sorry for a crappy paint drawing. The curves should be more rounded.
 

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no, (1) the E-field is a vector, with direction away from positive charges.
(2) the "r" in the denominator (that is squared) is the distance from charge to field point.
so, is 2m for one charge, and 6m for the other charge.
 
lightgrav said:
no, (1) the E-field is a vector, with direction away from positive charges.
(2) the "r" in the denominator (that is squared) is the distance from charge to field point.
so, is 2m for one charge, and 6m for the other charge.

I don't understand what you mean with (1). and for (2) isn't 2 and 6 what I had for the 2 r's?
 
pyroknife said:
I don't understand what you mean with (1). and for (2) isn't 2 and 6 what I had for the 2 r's?

lightgrav is right about the vector part. Think about just E=kq/x^2 for q>0. If you plot that you get that E is positive on both sides of 0 like your graph shows. That's not right. The E field is negative on the left side of x=0 and positive on the right side of x=0. You put the 'vector' part in by hand to get the right answer by adjusting signs at x=6. You didn't adjust the signs in the general case of any x. Your graph doesn't even show a negative E field at x=6.
 
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Dick said:
lightgrav is right about the vector part. Think about just E=kq/x^2 for q>0. If you plot that you get that E is positive on both sides of 0 like your graph shows. That's not right. The E field is negative on the left side of x=0 and positive on the right side of x=0. You put the 'vector' part in by hand to get the right answer by adjusting signs at x=6. You didn't adjust the signs in the general case of any x. Your graph doesn't even show a negative E field at x=6.

oh ok i think I see what you're saying. I got the -8000 N/C right though right? For the graph, my left, and right ones are right, but the middle one is opposite right? As in, for my middle plot the graph should be approaching positive infinity at x=0 from the right and approaching negative negative from the left at x=8?
 
pyroknife said:
oh ok i think I see what you're saying. I got the -8000 N/C right though right? For the graph, my left, and right ones are right, but the middle one is opposite right? As in, for my middle plot the graph should be approaching positive infinity at x=0 from the right and approaching negative negative from the left at x=8?

Yes, that sounds right. You can also write the field kq/x^2 as kqx/|x|^3 which always gets the sign right without putting it in by hand and also works for vectors. Do you see why?
 
Dick said:
Yes, that sounds right. You can also write the field kq/x^2 as kqx/|x|^3 which always gets the sign right without putting it in by hand and also works for vectors. Do you see why?

Yes I think so, the adding the x in the numerator will make the sign match the positive/negative distance, idk how to word it right.
 
pyroknife said:
Yes I think so, the adding the x in the numerator will make the sign match the positive/negative distance, idk how to word it right.

Good enough. If you think of v as a vector then kqv/|v|^3 will always have the same magnitude as kq/v^2 but it will point in the direction of v, like it's supposed to.
 

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