Calculate Inertia: What is the Mass of the Crate?

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The problem involves calculating the mass of a crate using principles of physics, specifically focusing on inertia, energy conservation, and momentum conservation. The scenario describes a crate that rolls on casters, with an iron block attached to it, and involves the explosion of a firecracker that causes both the crate and the block to move in opposite directions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to apply conservation of momentum and energy to find the mass of the crate. There are questions about how to relate the energy released by the firecracker to the kinetic energy of the crate and block. Some participants express uncertainty about the assumptions regarding energy conversion and the use of equations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different equations and approaches. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need for two equations to solve for the unknowns, and there is a recognition of the importance of correctly applying the principles of conservation of momentum and energy. However, there is no explicit consensus on the method to be used.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem does not specify how much of the firecracker's energy is converted to kinetic energy, leading to assumptions about energy conversion. There is also a mention of the initial velocities being zero, which may affect the setup of the equations.

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Homework Statement


A mysterious crate has shown up at your place of work, Firecracker Company, and you are told to measure its inertia. It is too heavy to lift, but it rolls smoothly on casters. Getting an inspiration, you lightly tape a 0.60-kg iron block to the side of the crate, slide a firecracker between the crate and the block, and light the fuse. When the firecracker explodes, the block goes one way and the crate rolls the other way. You measure the crate's speed to be 0.064 m/s by timing how long it takes to cross floor tiles. You look up the specifications of the firecracker and find that it releases 9 J of energy. That's all you need, and you quickly calculate the inertia of the crate.

Homework Equations


p=mv
k=1/2mv2

The Attempt at a Solution


i know the inertia is referring to the mass of the crate. will i need to use the chang in kinetic energy equation to solve for mass?
 
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Nice story. Good thing the crate wasn't full of firecrackers or pure gunpowder (not unthinkable in such a company...).
Teacher must have had a good time composing it. He doesn't tell you how much of the 9 J is converted to kinetic energy, but I guess you should assume 100%. So the crate comes away undented and undamaged.

Yess, the exercise wants the mass of the crate. Aside from your two equations you'll need a bit more: energy conservation, momentum conservation, to name some. Start your attempt at solution and post when stuck ...
 
emily081715 said:

Homework Statement


A mysterious crate has shown up at your place of work, Firecracker Company, and you are told to measure its inertia. It is too heavy to lift, but it rolls smoothly on casters. Getting an inspiration, you lightly tape a 0.60-kg iron block to the side of the crate, slide a firecracker between the crate and the block, and light the fuse. When the firecracker explodes, the block goes one way and the crate rolls the other way. You measure the crate's speed to be 0.064 m/s by timing how long it takes to cross floor tiles. You look up the specifications of the firecracker and find that it releases 9 J of energy. That's all you need, and you quickly calculate the inertia of the crate.

Homework Equations


p=mv
k=1/2mv2

The Attempt at a Solution


i know the inertia is referring to the mass of the crate. will i need to use the chang in kinetic energy equation to solve for mass?

Hey Emily! ;)

We have 2 unknowns: the mass of the mysterious crate, and the speed of the firecracker after the explosion.
To find them we need 2 equations.
Can we set up the equations for conservation of momentum and conservation of energy?
 
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Hey Emily! ;)

We have 2 unknowns: the mass of the mysterious crate, and the speed of the firecracker after the explosion.
To find them we need 2 equations.
Can we set up the equations for conservation of momentum and conservation of energy?
mc(vci-vcf)=mb(vbf-vbi)
vci-vbi=vbf-vcf

would i be using theses? for the second equation i divided out mass and the 1/2 and rearranged a bit
 
emily081715 said:
mc(vci-vcf)=mb(vbf-vbi)
vci-vbi=vbf-vcf

would i be using theses? for the second equation i divided out mass and the 1/2 and rearranged a bit

The first, yes, and we already know that the initial velocities are zero.
The second equation doesn't look right. I doesn't seem to be related to energy.
Oh, and it's too early to divide out mass or the 1/2. First we need to relate it to the given 9 J of energy.

BvU said:
He doesn't tell you how much of the 9 J is converted to kinetic energy, but I guess you should assume 100%. So the crate comes away undented and undamaged.

I don't see how it could ever be 100%. ;)
Instead I'm assuming we're only given the part of the energy that is converted to mechanical energy. That is, I think the word "mechanical" was accidentally omitted in the problem statement.
 
emily081715 said:
for the second equation i divided out mass
That is not very wise: the mass of the crate is quite different from the mass of the block.
 

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