Calculate Net Force on Q3: Charge Position for Zero Net Force

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The problem involves three charges: Q1, Q2, and Q3, where Q1 and Q2 are fixed at a distance apart, and the task is to determine the position of Q3 such that the net force on it due to Q1 and Q2 is zero. The context is within electrostatics, specifically focusing on the interactions between point charges.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the placement of Q3 relative to Q1 and Q2, questioning whether it can be positioned between them or to the left of Q1. There are attempts to analyze the forces and electric fields acting on Q3 from both Q1 and Q2.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations of where Q3 can be placed to achieve zero net force. Some participants suggest analyzing different regions (left of Q1, between Q1 and Q2, and right of Q2) while others clarify the implications of charge signs and the direction of electric fields. Guidance has been provided regarding the need to consider the electric fields from both charges and their directions.

Contextual Notes

There is confusion regarding the regions where Q3 can be placed, particularly about the implications of charge magnitudes and the requirement for the net electric field to be zero. Participants are also addressing the mathematical relationships involved in calculating forces and fields.

  • #31
I assume you mean the distance from q3 to q2. r+x. Is that what you meant?
 
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  • #32
nopes,
but you are/ should be using q1 and q2?
 
  • #33
thought i am using q3 & q1
 
  • #34
oh..that was wrong, I guess
 
  • #35
so what am I using?
 
  • #36
q1, and q2

you are simply lost!, don't you? ^^
 
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  • #37
It seems that you are still a bit confused. Remember that you are trying to find out where to put Q3 so that it feels no net force from Q1 + Q2. Since Q3 feels the electric field from Q1 + Q2, this is equivalent to asking where is the net field from Q1 + Q2 equal to zero.

Let's look at the field to the left of Q1 at some point a distance X to the left of Q1. The field from Q1 at that point will be:
E_{q_1} = - \frac{k q_1}{x^2}

Note that I put a negative sign, since the field points to the left.

Now the field from Q2 (realize that if the distance from the point to Q1 is X, then its distance from Q2 must be X + 0.279 m):
E_{q_2} = + \frac{k q_2}{(x + 0.279)^2}

Note that this field points to the right, so it's positive.

Now add them up and solve for the distance (x) that makes the sum equal to zero.

Note that in both of the equations above, I let q_1 and q_2 stand for just the magnitude of the charges. (Don't put in a negative sign twice!)
 
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  • #38
Winzer said:
The charges Q1= 1.90·10-6 C and Q2= -3.03·10-6 C are fixed at their positions, distance 0.279 m apart, and the charge Q3= 3.33·10-6 C is moved along the straight line. For what position of Q3 relative to Q1 is the net force on Q3 due to Q1 and Q2 zero? Use the plus sign for Q3 to the right of Q1.

Hey,

In solving this problem refer to the following principle,

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Given any two arbitrary un-like sign charges: q_{1} and q_{2}, placed on an axis a distance L from each other. Then, the placement (on that axis) of a charge q_{3} such that the net force on q_{3} due to: q_{1} and q_{2}, will be zero. Can be given as follows,

q_{1}q_{2} < 0 \therefore q_{1}q_{2} \equiv -

<br /> |q_{1}| &lt; |q_{2}|, |\vec{r}_{31}| &lt; |\vec{r}_{32}|, |\vec{r}_{32}| &gt; L<br />

<br /> |q_{1}| = |q_{2}|<br />, No equilibrium exists on that axis.

<br /> |q_{1}| &gt; |q_{2}|, |\vec{r}_{31}| &gt; |\vec{r}_{32}|, |\vec{r}_{32}| &gt; L<br />
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I wrote up this principle up a while back, because these type of (electric charge) physics problems come up so often.

Thanks,

-PFStudent
 

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