Work, Energy, Power Problems: No Mass? No Speed?

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Homework Statement



Athletes who compete in downhill skiing try to lose as little energy as possible. A skier starts from rest at the top of a 65 m hill and skis to the bottom as fast as possible. When she arrives at the bottom, she has a speed of 23 m/s. Calculate the skier's efficiency. Explain why the mass of the skier is not required when calculating the efficiency.

Homework Equations



Eg = mgh

The Attempt at a Solution



I don't understand since Eg = mgh, and I'm only given height and velocity. How could I possibly find the skier's efficiency without mass?

*Also, another question asks how I could determine power without time. How is this possible when P = E/t?
 
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Just put the mass in as an unknown m and plod through the equations. See what happens.
For the other question, you need to post it in full.
 
Since mass is unknown so put mass as unknown, at the end the mass will cancel out because Eout/Ein*100%...
Follow the steps
E input = mgh
mass= unknown, so E input= mass*9.8ms^-2*65m = 637m
E input = 637*mass

E out = E kinetic at bottom of hill, so Ek= (mv^2)/2
E out= 264.5*mass
Finally, Efficiency= Eout/Ein *100%
Efficiency= (264.5*mass)/(637*mass) * 100%
Since the mass is same, so they cancel out: it will not effect the answer...
Efficiency = 41.5%
 
haruspex said:
Just put the mass in as an unknown m and plod through the equations. See what happens.
For the other question, you need to post it in full.
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harujina said:

Homework Statement



Athletes who compete in downhill skiing try to lose as little energy as possible. A skier starts from rest at the top of a 65 m hill and skis to the bottom as fast as possible. When she arrives at the bottom, she has a speed of 23 m/s. Calculate the skier's efficiency. Explain why the mass of the skier is not required when calculating the efficiency.

Homework Equations



Eg = mgh

The Attempt at a Solution



I don't understand since Eg = mgh, and I'm only given height and velocity. How could I possibly find the skier's efficiency without mass?

*Also, another question asks how I could determine power without time. How is this possible when P = E/t?
https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...problems-no-mass-no-speed.721041/post-6471736
 
smokiee said:
Since mass is unknown so put mass as unknown, at the end the mass will cancel out because Eout/Ein*100%...
Follow the steps
E input = mgh
mass= unknown, so E input= mass*9.8ms^-2*65m = 637m
E input = 637*mass

E out = E kinetic at bottom of hill, so Ek= (mv^2)/2
E out= 264.5*mass
Finally, Efficiency= Eout/Ein *100%
Efficiency= (264.5*mass)/(637*mass) * 100%
Since the mass is same, so they cancel out: it will not effect the answer...
Efficiency = 41.5%
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