Calculate Pressure Under Water: Equation, Results & Atmospheric Pressure Unit

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The discussion revolves around calculating pressure at various depths underwater, exploring the relationship between pressure, volume, and atmospheric pressure units. Participants are examining the implications of their experimental results and the theoretical underpinnings of pressure in fluids, particularly in the context of the ideal gas law and hydrostatic pressure.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the equation for calculating pressure at given depths underwater, suggesting a relationship between pressure, depth, and atmospheric pressure units.
  • Another participant explains that the ideal gas law can be applied under water, noting that a pressure of 1 atmosphere corresponds to approximately 101,325 Pa.
  • A participant questions the validity of their proposed equation for pressure in relation to depth, substituting atmospheric pressure units into their formula.
  • One participant provides a detailed derivation of pressure in a fluid, relating it to the force exerted by the water column above and incorporating density and gravitational acceleration into the equation.
  • Another participant confirms that a change in water height of about 10 meters corresponds to an increase of approximately 1 bar of pressure.
  • A participant seeks clarification on the pressure experienced at a depth of 25 meters, suggesting a calculation of 3.5 bars of pressure.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying degrees of agreement on the relationships between depth and pressure, with some confirming the 10-meter to 1-bar relationship while others explore different formulations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact pressure calculations at specific depths.

Contextual Notes

Participants rely on assumptions about the constancy of water density and gravitational acceleration, and there are unresolved details regarding the accuracy of the proposed equations and the implications of experimental results.

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Hey, is there an equation to work out what the pressure is at given depths under water?

Basically, I have a set of results showing the volume of 'some' air increasing as the pressure is changed. I know that pressure x volume is constant. I need the above equation to explain how my results occurred. (as well as to see how accurate my experiment was)!

One thing that I have been told that the pressure increases by 1 atmospheric pressure unit every 10m under water, however I don't know what the magnitude of the atmospheric pressure unit is in terms of pressure (to be used in the pV = nRT equation).

My guesses from what I've been told is that... Pressure = 1/10 * depth (in meters) * atmospheric pressure unit

Any help would be greatly appreicated, thanks!
 
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Welcome to PF Kasc.

For air under water you can to good approximation apply the ideal gas law (PV/T constant, i.e. PV is constant if the temperature doesn't vary appreciably).

A pressure of 1 atm(osphere) corresponds 101,325 Pa(scal). It is equal to about 1 bar, which is 100,000 Pa (10^5 Pa). It is preferred to give pressure in SI units (e.g. N/m^2 = Pa) although the use of bars is also common. On the surface of the Earth at sea level the pressure is usually 1 atm ~ 1 bar. So an atmosphere is the air pressure you normally feel due to the atmosphere of the Earth -- hence the name.
 
So does that mean my equation works? (Pressure = 1/10 * depth (in meters) * 10^5)
 
Pressure p, is defined as a force F exerted on area A, that is p = F / A. The force F is really just the force of gravity of the column of water above you, which can be calculated as mg (where m is the mass of the water and g is Earth's gravitational constant). The mass of the water is give by m = V * ρ, where V is the water's volume and ρ its density. The volume can be expressed as the area (on which the water exerts the Fg) times the height of the water column. Notice that this area is the same as the area A from p = F / A, hence we have:

p = \frac{F}{A} = \frac{m \cdot g}{A} = \frac{V \cdot \rho \cdot g}{A} = \frac{h \cdot A \cdot \rho \cdot g}{A} = \rho \cdot g \cdot h

where ρ is the water density, g is the Earth's gravitational constant and h is the height of the water column (e.g. the depth)

If we take water's density (at 4°C) to be 1,000kg m-3 and the standard atmospheric pressure to be 101,325 Pa, then the depth at which the water pressure is equal to 101,325 Pa is given by

h = \frac{101,325 Pa}{\rho \cdot g} = \frac{101,325 N \cdot m^{-2} }{ 1,000 kg \cdot m^{-3} \times 9.8 m \cdot s^{-2} } = 10.34m
 
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Moreover, since the density and gravitational constant are assumed to be a constant, then it is also true that
\Delta p = \rho g \Delta h
and by the same reasoning as scibuff's, a difference of about 10 meters in water height corresponds to 1 bar of pressure.
 
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Ok thanks guys :)

So as to just check: if you were under 25m of water, you would be experiencing 3.5 bars of pressure?
 

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