Calculate Radius of Curvature for Involute of a Circle

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The discussion revolves around calculating the radius of curvature for the involute of a circle, defined parametrically. Participants are tasked with showing that the radius of curvature is related to the arc length, but there appears to be confusion regarding the derivatives involved in the calculation.

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  • Participants discuss their attempts to calculate the first and second derivatives of y with respect to x, exploring the implications of these derivatives on the radius of curvature. Questions arise about the correctness of their calculations and the use of the chain rule.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on each other's calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the second derivative, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or outcome. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is also a focus on understanding the relationship between the radius of curvature and arc length, with specific terms and definitions being questioned.

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Show that for the involute of a circle ([tex]x=a(\cos\theta + \theta\sin\theta) \\[/tex], [tex]y=a(\sin\theta - \theta\cos\theta)[/tex] for 0 <=[tex]\theta[/tex]<=[tex]\pi \\[/tex]) radius a, the radius of curvature, is [tex]\sqrt{2as}[/tex], where s is the arc length. The radius of curvature is [tex]\rho = \frac{1 + (\frac{dy}{dx})^2}{\frac{d^2y}{dx^2}}\\ [\tex];<br /> My attempt: [tex]\frac{dx}{d\theta} = a \theta\cos\theta \\[/tex] and [tex]\frac{dy}{d\theta} = a\theta\sin\theta \\[/tex],<br /> that implies that [tex]\frac{dy}{dx} = \tan\theta \\[/tex], which implies that [tex]\frac{d^2y}{dx^2} = \sec^{2}\theta[/tex], therefore [tex]\rho = \sec\theta\\[/tex]. Which is not the answer they suggest. Please help, thanks.<br /> [/tex]
 
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Check again the second derivative of y wrt x. Be careful about using the chain rule. Remember that

[tex]\frac{d^2 y}{dx^2}=\frac{d}{d\Huge{\mathbf{x}}}\frac{dy}{dx}[/tex]
 
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I checked [tex]\frac{d^2y}{dx^2}[/tex] and got the following [tex]\frac{d^2y}{dx^2} = \frac{d\tan\theta}{d\theta} \cdot \frac{d\theta}{dx} = \sec^{2}\theta \cdot \frac{d\theta}{dx} = \frac{\sec^{2}\theta}{\frac{dx}{d\theta}} \\[/tex]. This gives [tex]\frac{d^2y}{dx^2} = \frac{\sec^{2}\theta}{a\theta \cos\theta} \\[/tex], which yields [tex]\rho =a\theta[/tex]. Which is not the correct answer either, but the integral of [tex]a\theta[/tex] w.r.t, [tex]\theta[/tex] gives s. Thanks for the reply.
 
Is anyone interest as to why I can't get the correct answer. I get [tex]\rho = a\theta \mbox{ not the } \sqrt{2sa}[/tex]? Thanks.
 
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What is "s" equal to ? In terms of [itex]\rho,\theta[/itex], of course ?
 

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