Calculate T for Maximum Altitude: 1D Kinematics Problem Solution

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The discussion focuses on calculating the time T required for a rocket to reach a maximum altitude of 990 meters, given an upward acceleration of 16.0 m/s² during its engine burn. The user initially grapples with the equations of motion and confuses the time variables associated with the engine burn and free fall phases. It is clarified that the time t during free fall is related to the boost time T, and a correct substitution is necessary to solve the quadratic equation properly. The final correct answer for T is determined to be 6.86 seconds, highlighting the importance of accurately tracking the different time intervals in kinematic problems. Understanding the relationship between the two time variables is crucial for solving similar physics problems effectively.
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Homework Statement


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During your summer internship for an aerospace company, you are asked to design a small research rocket. The rocket is to be launched from rest from the earth’'s surface and is to reach a maximum height of 990 m above the earth'’s surface. The rocket’'s engines give the rocket an upward acceleration of 16.0 m/s2 during the time T that they fire. After the engines shut off, the rocket is in free fall. Ignore air resistance.

What it asks for : What must be the value of T in order for the rocket to reach the required altitude?

Homework Equations


basic kinematics formulas
X= Xo + VoT+1/2AT^2
V=Vo+AT
V^2=Vo^2+2A(X-Xo)

o denotes initial

The Attempt at a Solution


| X3= 990 V3=0
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| X2= V2= A=-9.8
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| X1=0 V1=0 A=16.0 m/s

X3=X2+V2T-1/2 9.8T^2
X2=X1+V1T+.5*16*T^2
X2=0+0T+.5^16*T^2
X2=8T^2

plugging pack into original equation:
X3=8T^2 +V2T -4,9 T^2
combining like terms
X3= 3.1T^2 + V2T

finding V2:
V2=V1+16T
V2=0+16T
V2=16T
plugging back in

X3= 3.1T^2 + 16T
X3=990
990=3.1T^2 + 16T

it is a quadratic equation I graphed it to find the X value, I got 20.65 , but it is wrong, where Did I go wrong?
 
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The 'T's that appear here
David112234 said:
X3=X2+V2T-1/2 9.8T^2
and
David112234 said:
X2=X1+V1T+.5*16*T^2
are not the same.
The first is the time it takes for the rocket to reach zero velocity after the engines were shut off, while the second is the boost time during which the engines were turned on.
 
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Fightfish said:
The 'T's that appear here

and
are not the same.
The first is the time it takes for the rocket to reach zero velocity after the engines were shut off, while the second is the boost time during which the engines were turned on.

So what alternative method should I use?
 
There is no need for an alternative method; your general approach is okay - just that you need to be careful when you keep track of the two different times. To proceed, you have to find out how the time t_{2} in x_{3}=x_{2}+ v_{2}t_{2} -\frac{1}{2} g {t_{2}}^2 is related to the boost time T.
(Hint: Use v=v_{0}+at)
 
Fightfish said:
There is no need for an alternative method; your general approach is okay - just that you need to be careful when you keep track of the two different times. To proceed, you have to find out how the time t_{2} in x_{3}=x_{2}+ v_{2}t_{2} -\frac{1}{2} g {t_{2}}^2 is related to the boost time T.
(Hint: Use v=v_{0}+at)

V3=V2+AT
V2=16t
V3=16t-9.8T
V3=0
0=16t-9.8T
-16t=-9.8T
16/9.8t = T

8t2+16t2-4.9T2
8t2+16t2-4.9(16/9.8 t)2

990= 10.93 t2
90.5=t2
√90.5 =t
t= 9.513

the correct answer is 6.86.
 
David112234 said:
the correct answer is 6.86.
Yup, that's what I got.

This line is not correct:
David112234 said:
x_{3} = 8t^2+16t^2-4.9T
It should be
x_{3} = x_{2} + v_{2}t - \frac{1}{2}g t^2 = \frac{1}{2}a T^{2} + (aT)t - \frac{1}{2}g t^2
Substitute t = (a/g)T as you've derived above, and you should be done.

(Note: I realized the meaning of t and T I've used here is opposite of what you have in that post, but you should be able to make the connection :p)
 
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