Calculate the heat during the canon ball rise

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The problem involves calculating the heat generated during the rise of a cannonball fired vertically. It includes considerations of kinetic and potential energy at different points in the cannonball's trajectory.

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  • Participants discuss the transformation of kinetic energy to potential energy and heat, questioning how to relate these energies mathematically. There are attempts to clarify the energy conservation equation and the role of heat in this context.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering clarifications and exploring the relationships between kinetic energy, potential energy, and heat. Some guidance has been provided regarding the energy equation, but no consensus has been reached on the final approach to calculate heat.

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There is a mention of potential confusion regarding the notation for heat energy and the initial and final states of kinetic energy. The problem setup includes specific values for mass, initial speed, and height, but further details on the energy transformations are still being discussed.

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HI!

This problem has been killing me...

The Q is the following: A canon fires a canon ball which weighs 50 grams vertically at an initial speed of 600 m/s. 3 Km on top of the point where it was fired, the speed is only 50 m/s. calculate the heat during the canon ball rise.

I don't know how to use the kinetic formula in function with the energy formula, any help would be appreciated!
 
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The canon ball has a certain amount of kinetic energy from the start and a certain kinetic energy when the speed is 50 m/s (which is less). Some of the kinetic energy has been transformed to potential energy. The rest of the energy has been "lost" as heat etc.

Start: [tex]W_k[/tex]
Finish [tex]W_k + W_p + W_h[/tex]

Lets call the heat energy [tex]W_h[/tex] in this case although it isn't exactly correct index.
 
Thanks for clearing things up, Mattara.

So what would we eventually have to do to find Q, the heat produced?
 
Using Mattara's notation Q = Wh.

~H
 
so it would be Wh + Wp = -Wh ?
 
Not quite, intially you have some kinetic energy. At the 'end' you have some kinetic energy, some potential and the rest as heat, therefore;

Initial Kinetic = Final Kinetic + Potential Energy + Heat

[tex]\frac{1}{2}mv_{i}^{2} = \frac{1}{2}mv_{f}^{2} + mgh + Q[/tex]

Can you go from here?

~H
 
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hehe thanks Hootenanny
Actually, i meant Wk + Wp= -Wh, the former Wh was a typo...

But everything is clear now, thanks a lot to both of you!
 

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