Calculate the induced charge on a conducting surface

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Homework Statement


A very thin plane of length ##2a## is placed in the air at height ##a## above the conducting surface. The plane is charged on its surface and the expression for it's surface charge density (##ρ_s##) is given by ##ρ_s=ρ_{s0}*\frac{x}{a}## and ##ρ_{s0}## is some constant.
a) Determine the surface charge density function inducted on the conducting surface.
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Homework Equations


$$ρ_s=ρ_{s0}*\frac{x}{a}$$

The Attempt at a Solution


I need help in starting to solve the problem. I have some theories as to how i would solve it and i would like a feedback on if it's ok to do so.
I was going to use a theory where we remove the conducting surface and add a mirror image of the object with an opposite charge. So at ##2a## distance from the first plane there is a second plane with a charge density $$ρ_{s2}=-ρ_{s0}*\frac{x}{a}$$. Now all i have to do is calculate the electric field right? I am confused as how I am going to do this.
I know that the electric field of a plane is $$E_p=\frac{ρ_s}{2ε_0}$$ but how will i find the inducted charge and express it in a surface charge density function?[/B]
 

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doktorwho said:
Now all I have to do is calculate the electric field right?
That's right. As if the conducting plane at z=0 were absent. From symmetry (that's why you use the mirror image method in the first place) you know you only need one component. You need a relevant equation for ##\vec E##, something like ##|E| = {kq\over r^2 }## and an integration.

Once you have E, then you use ##E_p=\frac{ρ_s}{2ε_0}## to get the surface charge on the conducting plane at z=0.

If the given charge distribution on the thin plane is causing you a problem, think of a negative charge on one end and a positive on the other: with the mirror you get a quadrupole field. So for this exercise you expect something in that ball park as well.
 
BvU said:
That's right. As if the conducting plane at z=0 were absent. From symmetry (that's why you use the mirror image method in the first place) you know you only need one component. You need a relevant equation for ##\vec E##, something like ##|E| = {kq\over r^2 }## and an integration.

Once you have E, then you use ##E_p=\frac{ρ_s}{2ε_0}## to get the surface charge on the conducting plane at z=0.

If the given charge distribution on the thin plane is causing you a problem, think of a negative charge on one end and a positive on the other: with the mirror you get a quadrupole field. So for this exercise you expect something in that ball park as well.
Thanks, as for the relevant equation for ##E## in order to get what i said was the ##E## for the plane a used the Gausses's law :-). I understood this problem and m about to post another that's been bothering me :D. Thanks for the answer, your the kind that makes this site awesome (gives a big thumbs up)
 
BvU said:
Gauss is valid for a pillbox close to the plane in case of non-uniform surface charge.
Hmm..thinking about it now i can use the electric field of a line to replace this plane. What i mean is:
$$E=\frac{ρ_l}{2πε_0r}$$ is the elekctric field of a line and ##ρ_l## is the line charge function. Here it's just ##ρ_l=ρ_sdx##. I guess this should work?
 
It didn't appear in the problem statement, but I suppose the charged plane extends infinitely in the y+ and the y- direction, so: yes.
 
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BvU said:
It didn't appear in the problem statement, but I suppose the charged plane extends infinitely in the y+ and the y- direction, so: yes.
Sorry for the delay, i was preoccupied but i did make some progress with this and want to verify if this is correct.
So i used a mirror theorem in which i placed at distance ##2a## a plate that is exactly the same as the first one but with a negative charge on it. The next is my work:
##dE_1=\frac{ρ_l}{2\piε_0r}##
##dE_{total}=2dE_1cosθ##
I have choosen some point ##x_0## in where i calculate the field
##cosθ=\frac{a}{r}=\frac{a}{\sqrt{(x_0-x)^2+a^2}}##
when i apply the given surface charge density:
##E_{total}=\frac{ρ_{s0}}{πε_0}\int_{-a}^{a}\frac{xdx}{(x_0-x)^2+a^2}##
This should be the electric field, right? But when i integrate i will get a ##x_0## term and that appears nowhere in the result that my book gives, which i can post if you want..
 
doktorwho said:
This should be the electric field, right? But when i integrate i will get a ##x_0## term and that appears nowhere in the result that my book gives, which i can post if you want..
##x_0## is the x-coordinate of the point (line) on the conducting plate at z=0 where you want to express the surface charge density. I would expect that charge to depend on such an ##x_0## :confused: !?
 
BvU said:
##x_0## is the x-coordinate of the point (line) on the conducting plate at z=0 where you want to express the surface charge density. I would expect that charge to depend on such an ##x_0## :confused: !?
https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/109693
Here is the solution, can you make something out of it?
 
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