Calculate the mass of sand added to the bucket

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The problem involves a block connected to a bucket by a cord over a pulley, with the goal of determining the mass of sand needed to initiate movement. The context includes static and kinetic friction coefficients and the weights of the block and bucket.

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  • Participants discuss the need to calculate static friction and the forces acting on both the block and the bucket. Questions are raised about the relationship between the forces when the system begins to move.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the problem, with some participants providing hints and others questioning the adequacy of those hints. The discussion reflects a mix of attempts to clarify the problem and explore different interpretations of the forces involved.

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Participants note that the mass of the bucket is given, but there is uncertainty about how to approach the calculation of the mass of sand required for movement. The original poster expresses difficulty in starting the problem without additional information.

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I cannot figure out this problem. Please help out there. Thank you! I don't know where to start.


A 25.5 kg block is connected to an empty 1.00 kg bucket by a cord running over a frictionless pulley (Fig. 4-57). The coefficient of static friction between the table and the block is 0.450 and the coefficient of kinetic friction between the table and the block is 0.320. Sand is gradually added to the bucket until the system just begins to move.

(a) Calculate the mass of sand added to the bucket.
?kg

(b) Calculate the acceleration of the system.
?m/s2 (downward)
 

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Welcome to the forums. Please note that you must show some work before we can help you. Have you not studied any of this material in class, or have any relevant class notes on the topic from which you can begin?
 
I have, but the mass of the bucket would normally be given to me and I cannot figure out how to solve for the mass that needs to be applied in order for it to move. Taking the 1.00kg of the bucket into consideration, of course. Once I have the mass I can then solve for acceleration.
 
Can you calculate the static frictional acting on the block? Can you calculate the force of the string on the block? What can you say about when the block begins to move?
 
The fiction force should be maxed out when the bucket begins to lower.
 
here's your hint:

As of this scenario, the system remains static as long as the forces on the block(due to friction)...and on the bucket+sand(gravity), balance each other!

let's say 'x' is the maximum mass of sand for which the system remains stationary...then equating the forces

force on block(use the static coefficient)=force on bucket+sand

Also,
force on bucket+sand=(1+x)*g
 
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That's not a hint, Physwiz, that's a recipe for the solution! If the OP had answered my questions, he would have been able to obtain something like that.
 
It's still not the answer.
 

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