Calculate this integral using Stokes

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The problem involves calculating a line integral of a vector field \(\vec F = \cos (xyz)\hat j + (\cos (xyz) - 2x)\hat k\) along a curve \(L\) defined by the intersection of a cylinder and a plane. The context is rooted in vector calculus, specifically utilizing Stokes' theorem to relate the line integral to a surface integral of the curl of the vector field.

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  • Participants discuss the application of Stokes' theorem and the need to integrate over the surface rather than the boundary. There are attempts to parameterize the curve and surface, with some questioning the setup and calculations related to the curl of the vector field.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the parameterization of the curve and the correct application of Stokes' theorem. Some clarification has been offered regarding the integration process, but confusion remains about specific calculations and the interpretation of the results.

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There are indications of potential misunderstandings regarding the application of Stokes' theorem and the parameterization of the surface. Participants express uncertainty about certain calculations, particularly involving the curl of the vector field and its implications for the integral.

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Homework Statement


let F be vector field:
\[\vec F = \cos (xyz)\hat j + (\cos (xyz) - 2x)\hat k\]
let L be the the curve that intersects between the cylinder (x - 1)^2 + (y - 2)^2 = 4<br /> and the plane y+z=3/2
calculate:
\[\left| {\int {\vec Fd\vec r} } \right|\]

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in order to solve this i thought of using the stokes theorem because the normal to the plane is \[\frac{1}{{\sqrt 2 }}(0,1,1)\]
thus giving me
\oint{Fdr}=\int\int{curl(F)*n*ds}=\int\int{2\sqrt{2}*\sin(xyz)}


i tried to parametries x y and z x= rcos(t)+1 y=rsin(t)+2 z=1/2-rsin(t)

but it won't work this that sin...
 
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I don't know the rules but you should probably stick to posting the same question in one place only?
 


supercali said:

Homework Statement


let F be vector field:
\[\vec F = \cos (xyz)\hat j + (\cos (xyz) - 2x)\hat k\]
let L be the the curve that intersects between the cylinder (x - 1)^2 + (y - 2)^2 = 4<br /> and the plane y+z=3/2
calculate:
\[\left| {\int {\vec Fd\vec r} } \right|\]

Homework Equations


in order to solve this i thought of using the stokes theorem because the normal to the plane is \[\frac{1}{{\sqrt 2 }}(0,1,1)\]
thus giving me
\oint{Fdr}=\int\int{curl(F)*n*ds}=\int\int{2\sqrt{2}*\sin(xyz)}


i tried to parametries x y and z x= rcos(t)+1 y=rsin(t)+2 z=1/2-rsin(t)

but it won't work this that sin...
The cylinder has radius 2 so you should have x= 2cos(t)+ 1, y= 2sin(t)+ 2, z= 3/2- y= -1/2- 2sin(t).

However, it is not clear to me what you are doing! You said you you wanted to use Stokes theorem so you should be integrating over the surface, not the boundary. The surface that curve bounds is given by y+ z= 3/2 so, using x and y as parameters, the "vector differential of area" d\vec{S}= \vec{n}dS= (\vec{j}+ \vec{k})dxdy

I get \nabla\times F d\vec{S}= 2 dxdy.
 


HallsofIvy said:
The cylinder has radius 2 so you should have x= 2cos(t)+ 1, y= 2sin(t)+ 2, z= 3/2- y= -1/2- 2sin(t).

However, it is not clear to me what you are doing! You said you you wanted to use Stokes theorem so you should be integrating over the surface, not the boundary. The surface that curve bounds is given by y+ z= 3/2 so, using x and y as parameters, the "vector differential of area" d\vec{S}= \vec{n}dS= (\vec{j}+ \vec{k})dxdy

I get \nabla\times F d\vec{S}= 2 dxdy.

first of all sorry for posting twice it was by a mistake somthing got stuck and i didnt notice that it was already posted...

secondly Hall i kind of lost you here :"using x and y as parameters, the "vector differential of area" i didnt really understand that i do get it that the plane z+y=3/2 is the surface and that it is bounded by the cylinder but when claculating the curl(F) i just don't get it how does it disapear the sin(xyz)?
 


If \vec F = \cos (xyz)\vec j + (\cos (xyz) - 2x)\vec k
Then \nabla\times \vec{F}= (xysin(xyz)-xzsin(xyz))\vec{i}+ (yzsin(xyz)+ 2)\vec{j}- yzsin(xyz)\vec{k}

The dot product of that with \vec{j}+ \vec{k}, a normal vector to y+ z= 3/2, is 0(xysin(xyz)-xzsin(xyz))+ 1(yzsin(xyz)+ 2)+ 1(- yzsin(xyz)= 2.
 
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thanks dude
i really should sleep more because i simply made a calculation mistake this exam in calculus 2 will drive me nuts
thanks for the help alllot!
 

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