Calculate Total Impedance Quickly in Series Circuit

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The discussion revolves around calculating the total impedance in series and parallel circuits, particularly focusing on methods to simplify the process and address challenges faced when dealing with complex numbers. Participants explore various approaches and express concerns about arithmetic errors and the complexity of calculations.

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  • One participant describes using the formula 1/Zt = 1/Z + 1/Z... for total impedance but finds it lengthy for multiple impedances and suggests using the magnitude of the capacitor to simplify calculations.
  • Another participant mentions that calculating total impedance in parallel circuits is messier and proposes assuming a voltage to work out currents, which can then be used to find total impedance.
  • A participant raises a concern about calculating impedance when only a current source is given, expressing uncertainty about handling complex numbers in calculations.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of laying out solutions clearly to avoid arithmetic errors, especially when dealing with complex numbers.
  • Another participant provides an example involving complex numbers to illustrate how to simplify calculations, suggesting a method to eliminate complex terms.

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Participants express various methods and concerns regarding the calculation of total impedance, indicating that there is no consensus on a single approach or solution. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views on the best method to use.

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Participants mention challenges related to complex numbers and arithmetic errors, indicating that some may not have covered complex numbers yet, which affects their ability to perform calculations accurately.

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This discussion may be useful for students learning about impedance in electrical circuits, particularly those struggling with complex numbers and seeking alternative methods for calculations.

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to find the the total impedance of a circuit i use 1/Zt=1/Z+1/Z...ect. this way is quite lenghty when dealing with more than two impedances.

i wonder if there is a qicker way of doing it maybe by just using the magnitude of the capacitor to get rid of the imaginary part.

for example if i had a risistor , a capacitor. and a inductor in series with a risistor.

what i did was find the impedances of each branch then used the eq ZT=(Z1.Z2)/Z1+Z2 to find the impedance of the first to branch then simpify the circuit replacing the two branches with a single impedance and used the eq again.

but it doesn't seem to agree with my lecture's answer.
 
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It is messier than series circuits.

I assume some voltage and then work out the currents for the branches of the parallel network.

Then you can just add the currents to get a total current and then get back to an impedance by dividing the voltage by this current.

I suppose it amounts to the same process. Because it involves smaller steps, you can track down atithmetic errors easier, I guess.

If you have capacirors in parallel, you can certainly simplify those (by just adding the capacitances) , but not if they have series resistors or other extra components.
 
What it i was just given a current source and no voltage was given. i guess i would have to do it the other way. i tend to mess up the arithmetic since i havn't covered complex numbers yet. If u have a complex number on the bottom of the first equation then i am not sure what to do to get rid of it.
 
It is very easy to get the arithmetic wrong with these, so it is important to lay the solution out well so you can check it through afterwards. Explain what you are doing and leave blank lines between calculations.

If you haven't done complex numbers, you will find these calculations pretty weird.

You may be able to follow this example:

complex no calc.PNG


It starts off with a complex number 12 - j40 in the bottom line. See what happens when you multiply by 12 + j40 / 12 + J40. The J's vanish and you get something you can deal with.
 
Thank you. This should help me.
 

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