Calculating a large toroid's magnetic field

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The calculation of a toroid's magnetic field involves the equation B_0 = \frac{\mu_0(N)(I)}{2\pi r}, where N represents the number of turns per unit length. In this discussion, the value of N was incorrectly interpreted as the total number of turns instead of the turns per meter, leading to an erroneous magnetic field calculation. The correct substitution for N should be \frac{N}{2\pi r}, resulting in a net magnetic field of 0.18 T, as opposed to the initially calculated 1.13 T.

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Homework Statement
A current of 1.5 A flows through the windings of a large, thin toroid with 200 turns per meter and a radius of 1 meter. If the toroid is filled with iron for which ##X = 3\times 10^3##, what is the magnetic field within it?
Relevant Equations
##B_0 = \frac{\mu_0(N)(I)}{2\pi r}##
##B_{net} = B_0 + B_m = (1+X)\times B_0##
##B_0 = \frac{\mu_0(N)(I)}{2\pi r}##
##\frac{N}{2\pi r} = 200##
##B_{net} = B_0 + B_m = (1+X)\times B_0##
Plugging in the numbers:
##B_0 = 4\pi\times 10^{-7}(200)(1.5) = 3.8\times 10^{-4}##

##B_{net} = (1+X)\times B_0 = (1+ 3\times 10^3)\times 3.8\times 10^{-4}## = 1.13 T

But the answers says it is 0.18 T.

Where did I go wrong?
 
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annamal said:
Relevant Equations:: ##B_0 = \frac{\mu_0(N)(I)}{2\pi r}##

annamal said:
##B_0 = 4\pi\times 10^{-7}(200)(1.5) = 3.8\times 10^{-4}##
Looks like you forgot to divide by ##2 \pi r##
 
TSny said:
Looks like you forgot to divide by ##2 \pi r##
I am given N is 200 turns per meters which should be ##\frac{N}{2\pi r}##, so that should be taken into account with the substitution of 200 in the equation
 
annamal said:
I am given N is 200 turns per meters which should be ##\frac{N}{2\pi r}##, so that should be taken into account with the substitution of 200 in the equation
You are given 200 which is ##N## not ##\frac{N}{2\pi r}##. Take a good look at the derivation for the field inside a toroid and at what the symbols stand for.
 
annamal said:
I am given N is 200 turns per meters which should be ##\frac{N}{2\pi r}##, so that should be taken into account with the substitution of 200 in the equation
Yes, you are correct! I mistakenly took the 200 to be the total number of turns even though it clearly states "200 turns per meter". Looks like whoever wrote the answers made the same mistake as I did. Sorry about that. I agree with your answer.
 
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kuruman said:
You are given 200 which is ##N## not ##\frac{N}{2\pi r}##. Take a good look at the derivation for the field inside a toroid and at what the symbols stand for.
200 is the turns per meter so it should equal n = ##\frac{N}{2\pi r}##

##B_0 = \frac{\mu_0(N)(I)}{2\pi r}## where N is the number of times the toroid is rotated. which means N/Length = 200 where length = ##2\pi r##
 
TSny said:
Yes, you are correct! I mistakenly took the 200 to be the total number of turns even though it clearly states "200 turns per meter". Looks like whoever wrote the answers made the same mistake as I did. Sorry about that. I agree with your answer.
Me too. Sorry about the confusion.
 

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