Calculating Angle of Twist and Maximum Shear Stress in a Torsional Load

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The discussion revolves around calculating the angle of twist and maximum shear stress in a prismatic bar subjected to a distributed torque. Participants explore the mathematical relationships involved, including the torque distribution, polar moment of inertia, and the implications of the given parameters in a torsional loading scenario.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the problem involving a prismatic bar with a solid circular cross-section and a distributed torque.
  • Another participant clarifies that the torque T(x) is not constant and varies with distance, challenging the assumption that T = tL.
  • There is a discussion about the correct formula for the polar moment of inertia, with one participant asserting that the formula I = (π/2)(r^4) is correct, while another suggests looking up the polar moment of inertia instead of using the area moment of inertia.
  • Participants explore the implications of a distributed torque of constant intensity and how it affects the calculation of T(x).
  • One participant provides a derived expression for the angle of twist W in terms of the distributed torque, shear modulus, and polar moment of inertia.
  • A later post introduces a related problem involving a steel drill pipe and seeks clarification on how to calculate the torsion and shear stress based on the number of revolutions before operation.
  • There is uncertainty expressed regarding how to derive T for the new scenario involving the drill pipe.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct approach to calculating T(x) and the polar moment of inertia, indicating multiple competing views and unresolved questions regarding the formulas and assumptions involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the definitions and calculations related to torque and moment of inertia, highlighting potential limitations in their understanding of the concepts involved in torsional loading.

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Homework Statement



Unfortunately, I don't have a picture to upload, so I'll describe it the best that I can.

A prismatic bar AB of length L and solid circular cross section (diameter d) is loaded by a distributed torque of constant intensity t per unit distance. Determine the angle of twist W between the ends of the bar.

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d(Torque) = tdx --> Torque T = integral (from 0 to L) [tdx] = tL

W = int(0 to L) [T(x)dx/GI(x)] , where G = shear modulus, I = polar moment of inertia

Is my T(x) equal to T = tL ?

How do I find I? I realize that I = int over the area [x^2 dA], where x is the distance from the center to dA

Can i just use the formula I = [(pi)r^4]/4 for a solid bar?
 
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if the bar is prismatic it means its cross section is constant along its length.

For this case a differential twist angle will be

d \phi = \frac{T(x)dx}{GI_{polar}}


Is my T(x) equal to T = tL ?

No, T = f(x). It's not constant for this case.


How do I find I? I realize that I = int over the area [x^2 dA], where x is the distance from the center to dA

Yes, but that will just make your work longer.

Can i just use the formula I = [(pi)r^4]/4 for a solid bar?

That formula is wrong. That's the area moment of inertia of the section. Look up the polar moment of inertia.
 
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Sorry i typed it in wrong. It should be I = (pi/2)(r^4)

Could you get me started on finding T(x)?
 
aznkid310 said:
Could you get me started on finding T(x)?

What do you understand by "... a distributed torque of constant intensity t per unit distance..." ?
 
that the torque varies linearly with distance?
 
aznkid310 said:
that the torque varies linearly with distance?

so T(x) = ?
 
T(x) = tx?


W = (t/GI)int(0 to L) [ xdx]

= (tL^2)/2GI

= [16tL^2]/[(pi)Gd^4]
 
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hi...how do i get the angle of twist (in radian) if the question give the revolutions number?

for more understanding, here is the question :

the ship at the surface,A has just started to drill for oil on the ocean floor at a depth of 1500m. knowing that the top of the 200-mm-diameter steel drill pipe (G=77.2GPa) rotates two complete revolutions before the drill bit at the bottom,B starts to operate, determine the maximum shear stress caused in the pipe by torsion.

i know that angle of twisT,@ = TL/JG where J= (pi/2)(c^4) ...c=outermost radius.

and when i got the T (torsion), i can use the equation ; shear stress = Tc/J.

am i correct here? i just got confuse how do i get the T..
 

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