Calculating Arc Length of a Curve: A Calculus II Problem

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The problem involves calculating the exact length of the curve defined by the equation y = 1/4 x² - 1/2 ln(x) over the interval 1 ≤ x ≤ 2, utilizing the arc length formula from calculus.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to find the derivative of the function and expresses uncertainty about their integration process. They also explore substitution methods for integration.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide guidance on simplifying the derivative and suggest examining the expression 1 + (dy/dx)² for potential simplifications. There is acknowledgment that the problem may have a simpler solution than initially expected, with one participant noting they arrived at the same answer as the textbook.

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The original poster mentions discrepancies between their result and the textbook answer, indicating potential issues with their integration or derivative calculations. The discussion includes hints about identities that may simplify the problem.

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Homework Statement


Find the exact length of the curve: y= 1/4 x2-1/2 ln(x) where 1<=x<=2

Homework Equations


Using the Length formula (Leibniz) given in my book, L=Int[a,b] sqrt(1+(dy/dx)2)
I found derivative of f to be (x2-1)/2x does that look correct?

The Attempt at a Solution


I found f' to be (x2-1)/2x does that look correct? I'm thinking I must be off on something because I get a wrong answer. Either that or my integration. I am trying to use tables in the book for that, and not sure about that either. I am trying to sub u for that (dy/dx) part when integrating, for which I think I can use the form:
int sqrt(u2+a2)=1/2 (u*sqrt(u2+a2)+a2ln|u+ sqrt(u2+a2)
When I put my value back in for u, it turns into a big mess. When I plug in my x values I got 15/32 +ln 2. This isn't right, the book has 3/4 + 1/2 ln 2 if that helps. Thank you.
 
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Write y&#039; in the simpler form \frac12(x - \frac{1}{x}). Take a closer look at 1 + y&#039;^2, and consider the identity (a + b)^2 = (a - b)^2 + 4ab.
 
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Like many textbook problems on arc length, this one is cooked up so that the square root simplifies to something nice. As it turns out, 1 + y'2 is a perfect square, so the final integral doesn't involve a radical and is pretty simple. I get the same answer as the textbook.
 
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ah, I get it now. Thanks, you guys rock. I'll definitely be back lol.
 

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