Calculating Bending Moments Along a Beam

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The discussion revolves around calculating bending moments at 1m intervals along a beam, focusing on the relationship between shear force and bending moment diagrams. Participants explore various methods and calculations related to this topic, which is homework-related and involves mathematical reasoning.

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  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents an initial attempt at calculating bending moments but expresses uncertainty about the approach.
  • Another participant suggests using the area under the shear diagram to find bending moments, indicating a relationship between the two diagrams.
  • Subsequent posts show a participant refining their calculations but still questioning their understanding of the method.
  • A later reply emphasizes the importance of understanding the relationship between shear force and bending moment for accurate calculations.
  • Finally, a participant shares their revised calculations for bending moments, showing a progression in their understanding of the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct method for calculating bending moments, as there are multiple approaches discussed and some participants express confusion about the relationship between shear and bending moments.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the participants' understanding of the relationship between shear force and bending moments, as well as potential missing assumptions in their calculations. Some mathematical steps remain unresolved, contributing to the uncertainty in the discussion.

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This discussion may be useful for students or individuals studying structural engineering, mechanics, or related fields who are looking to understand the calculation of bending moments in beams.

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Homework Statement



Calculate bending monents at 1m intervals along the beam


Homework Equations



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The Attempt at a Solution



I'm not sure where to start really? I think this is nearly there?

Ma = 0
M1 = -5 x 1
M2 = (-5 x 2) + 26.7
M3 = (-5 x 3) + 26.7 - 10
M4 = (-5 x 4) + 26.7 - 10
M5 = (-5 x 5) + 26.7 - 10
M6 = (-5 x 6) + 26.7 - 10
M7 = (-5 x 7) + 26.7 - 10
M8 = (-5 x 8) + 26.7 - 10 + 53.3
M9 = (-5 x 9) + 26.7 - 10 + 53.3
M10 = (-5 x 10) + 26.7 - 10 + 53.3 - 20
 
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This is the same beam and loading you were given and asked to generate the shear diagram. To find the bending moments along the beam, calculate the area under the shear diagram up to a given point located along the length of the beam.
 
I don't know what you mean?

I thought you calculated it like what I have done above?
 
Actually, I can see my attempt is totally wrong :(
 
Is this more like it?

Ma = 0
M1 = (-5 x 1)
M2 = (-5 x 2) + 26.7
M3 = (-5 x 3) + (26.7 x 2) -10
M4 = (-5 x 4) + (26.7 x 3) - (10 x 2)
M5 = (-5 x 5) + (26.7 x 4) - (10 x 3)
M6 = (-5 x 6) + (26.7 x 5) - (10 x 4)
M7 = (-5 x 7) + (26.7 x 6) - (10 x 5)
M8 = (-5 x 8) + (26.7 x 7) - (10 x 6) + 53.3
M9 = (-5 x 9) + (26.7 x 8) - (10 x 7) + (53.3 x 2)
M10 = 0
 
Well, there must have been another ryanmcarthy who posted a question in this same homework forum entitled "Shear Force Diagram Help". This other fellow had a beam with the same support and applied loads as your problem has. He was trying to figure out the shear force diagram for his beam. You could take his shear diagram, calculate the area under it at each location specified in the current problem, and obtain your bending moments.
 
Yes, that is me. That isn't what I didn't understand...

I don't understand what you mean by "You could take his shear diagram, calculate the area under it at each location specified in the current problem, and obtain your bending moments"
 
I said that because that is the relationship between the shear force diagram and the bending moment diagram.
 
I've drawn the shear force diagram, so would it be possible please for someone to show me how to calculate the points to draw a bending moment diagram? Not to draw the diagram for me, but show how you calculate the points?
Ma = 0
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m10 = 0

I know the rules state you need to try, but I have and do not understand how to go about doing them?

This is my shear force drawing:
CalculatingMoments.png
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Thanks a lot
 
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Brilliant, thank you! So I get these now:

M0=0
M1= -(5*1*1/1)= -2.5kNm
M2= -(5*2*2/2)= -10kNm
M3= (26.7*1)-(5*3*3/2)= 4.2kNm
M4= (26.7*2)-(5*4*4/2)-(10*1)= 3.4kNm
M5= (26.7*3)-(5*5*5/2)-(10*2)= -2.4kNm
M6= (26.7*4)-(5*6*6/2)-(10*3)= -13.2kNm
M7= (26.7*5)-(5*7*7/2)-(10*4)= -29kNm
M8= (26.7*6)-(5*8*8/2)-(10*5)= -49.8kNm
M9= (26.7*7)+(53.3*1)-(5*9*9/2)-(10*6)= -22.3kNm
M10=0
 

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