Calculating Boat Speed in Still Water: Solving a Simple Algebraic Equation

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving the calculation of a boat's speed in still water, given the speed of the current and the total time taken for a round trip upriver and downriver. The subject area includes algebra and quadratic equations.

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  • Participants discuss setting up the equation based on the boat's speed relative to the current and the total time for the journey. There are attempts to solve the quadratic equation derived from the problem, with some questioning the validity of their results and others comparing their findings.

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Several participants have shared their calculations and results, with some expressing confusion over the outcomes of their quadratic solutions. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the correctness of the results, and some guidance has been offered regarding the factorization of the quadratic equation.

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Participants note potential issues with calculator accuracy and the implications of negative solutions in the context of speed. There is also a mention of the assumption that traveling upriver means moving against the current.

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ahh it says to you the template provided below, but there's nothing here...o well

Question:
The Current in a river moves at a speed of 4km/h. A boat travels 32km upriver and 32km downriver in a total time of 6 hours. What is the speed of the boat in still water?

Relevant Equations:
[tex]Speed=\frac{Distance}{Time}[/tex]

Attempt:

I don't know what's wrong! This is meant to be a simple question, maybe my brains farting...

Let x be the speed in still water.
On its 32km upriver with the current, its speed is x+4 km/h,
on its 32km down its speed is x-4 km/h.

Let the time it took for the way upriver be t_1, and down t_2,

then on its way up, by s=d/t,
[tex]x+4=\frac{32}{t_1}[/tex]
Down:[tex]x-4=\frac{32}{t_2}[/tex]

Solving for the times, and adding them,
we get [tex]\frac{32}{x+4} + \frac{32}{x-4} = 6[/tex] since t_1 + t_2 must equal 6 hours, as given.

I multiplyed everything by x^2 - 16, expanded a simplyfied the quadratic equation, i end up with [tex]3x^2 - 32x -48=0[/tex] which i know isn't right >.< Help
 
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What's the problem? I get that quadratic too, and it gives me 12 km/h or -4/3 km/h, and I just ignored the negative solution. Btw, I think that going "upriver" usually means traveling against the current, not that it matters here. It would have mattered if he had traveled different distances each way.
 
I agree with cepheid. Why do you say "which I know isn't right"?
 
Ahh I used the quadratic formula, and for some reason I get something else

[tex]x=\frac{32+\sqrt{32^2+12(48)}}{6}[/tex] which isn't 12..

EDIT: BTW, Halls, 11,111 posts :D Niice
 
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Gib Z said:
Ahh I used the quadratic formula, and for some reason I get something else

[tex]x=\frac{32+\sqrt{32^2+12(48)}}{6}[/tex] which isn't 12..

?? My calculator says it is! But what does it know?
 
12 is correct.Try putting [tex]x=12[/tex] in the equation.You should be able to verify.Also you can do this by simple factorization.Can i help?
 
Now,uve got the equation
[tex]3x^2 - 32x -48=0[/tex]
This can be written as:
[tex]3x^2 - 36x +4x -48=0[/tex]

Also

[tex]3x(x - 12) +4(x -12)=0[/tex]
So you can group the common terms and write
[tex](3x+4)(x - 12) =0[/tex]

As speed can't be negative,so we get [tex]x=12[/tex]
 
Ahh ok thanks guy, i think I was just having calculator issues...thanks for the help! You can close this thread is you want.
 

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