Calculating % Change in Balloon's Volume at Different Altitude and Temp

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the percentage change in the volume of a helium-filled balloon as it rises from sea level to a higher altitude with a change in temperature and pressure. The relevant subject area includes gas laws and thermodynamics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the ideal gas law (PV = nRT) to find the initial and final volumes of the balloon. They express concern about the correctness of their reasoning and the unit consistency in their calculations. Other participants question the unit handling and clarify that the percent change formula is a dimensionless ratio.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with some participants providing affirmations of the original poster's approach and others prompting further exploration of unit consistency in the ideal gas law. There is a focus on understanding the relationships between pressure, volume, and temperature without reaching a definitive conclusion.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the implications of the ideal gas law and the specific conditions of the problem, including the changes in altitude and temperature. The original poster expresses a desire for clarity on unit conversions and the validity of their methods.

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Homework Statement



A child holding a helium filled balloon @ sea level (T= 20 C) let's go of the string. The balloon rises freely several thousand meters, where T = 5 C and P = 0.70 atm. Find the percentage change in the balloon's volume.


Homework Equations



PV = nRT

percentage change = amount of change (amt change = V2-V1)/ original amount (V1)

The Attempt at a Solution



Is my reasoning correct on this one? Since n and R don't change with altitude, temperature or volume, I solved for volume: V = P/T Then I solved for V1 and V2. Lastly used the above % change equation.

The only thing that is bothering me about my method is that I'm not sure how the units work out for the volume equation I posted. I guess I am figuring it jut works out (?) But, I really need to understand it for exams :wink: I see no other way to work this problem. Also- is the % change formula correct?

Thanks.
 
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Looks good to me.

Units? Try working them out.
 
V = P/T

m^3 or liters = Pa or (N/m^2) / (C)

I'm still don't understand how it works out. Do you mean work it out with the n and R included?
 
When you are calculating percent change in volume, that is a ratio and there are no units; they cancel out.

However, when working out the units in the ideal gas law, you will need to include nR, (or Nk):

PV=NkT=nRT
 
Thank you BF.
 

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