Calculating Collision Time: Astronaut's Experiment on Alien Planet

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The problem involves an astronaut conducting an experiment on an alien planet where a ball is fired straight up towards a target ball that is dropped simultaneously. The objective is to determine the time it takes for the two balls to collide, while ignoring air resistance.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the common factors of time, acceleration, and displacement for both balls. There is an attempt to set up kinematic equations to find the collision time, with some questioning the correctness of their equations and signs. Others suggest careful consideration of initial conditions and the direction of motion.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on setting up equations correctly and emphasizing the importance of consistent initial conditions. Multiple interpretations of the equations and their implications are being explored, but there is no explicit consensus on a numerical answer yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the need to clarify the initial conditions for both balls, particularly the height from which the target ball is dropped. There is also mention of potential confusion regarding the signs used in the equations.

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Homework Statement


An Astronaugt is doing an experiment on an alien planet. She fires a ball straight up towards a target ball that is dropped at the same time as the lower ball is launched. If air resistance is ignored, how long does it take for the two balls to collide?


Homework Equations


Kinematics equations.


The Attempt at a Solution


So we know that the two balls have three things in common. Time of collision, acceleration, and the displacement that they'll collide.

d1=.5at^2 and d1=.5at^2 + v1t (for the ball being launched)

I subed the two equations into each other and it didn't really work out... I'm thinking it has something to do with the signs or are my equations wrong all together? Thanks for the help.
 
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Your equations are ok, but you need to be careful in setting them up.

If y is positive then v is (+) and g is (-).

Where they collide is going to be y for both as you note and t is the same, so apparently you should end in an answer that depends on initial velocity and the original distance to the target.

So ...

y = v*t - 1/2*g*t2

and

y = d - 1/2*g*t2
 
Is there a numerical answer to this question? I used your equations and ended up with t = d/v.

and just to clarify, does your equation mean mean the total distance from the freefalling ball to the ground minus how much the ball free fell before the second ball collided with it?
 
Malgrif said:
Is there a numerical answer to this question? I used your equations and ended up with t = d/v.

and just to clarify, does your equation mean mean the total distance from the freefalling ball to the ground minus how much the ball free fell before the second ball collided with it?

No.

Yes.

When you set up the equations be careful to consistently express the initial conditions. In the case of the second equation, the target was dropping from height d. So the initial condition for the target, must include its distance above the planet at the start. The height of the one from the surface was 0 of course.

The complete equation applied to both is of the form ...

y = yo + v*t + 1/2*g*t2

... but you need to adjust the signs to reflect which direction is positive y.
 

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