Calculating Compression of Aquarium Support Posts

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The problem involves calculating the compression of wooden support posts for a large aquarium, specifically focusing on the effects of the aquarium's weight on the posts. The subject area includes concepts from mechanics and material science, particularly stress and strain in materials.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the aquarium's mass based on its volume and the density of water. There are attempts to apply the formula for compression but confusion arises regarding the correct area and force to use. Questions about the total area of the posts and how to calculate the pressure on individual posts are raised.

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Several participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the area and how it relates to the compression of individual posts. Some have offered guidance on calculating the pressure and strain, while others express uncertainty about their calculations and seek clarification.

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There is an emphasis on significant figures and the correct application of formulas, with participants noting potential errors in their calculations. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify assumptions and definitions related to the problem.

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Homework Statement



A large 3.00×10^4 L aquarium is supported by four wood posts (Douglas fir) at the corners. Each post has a square 3.80 cm x 3.80 cm cross section and is 80.0 cm tall.
By how much is each post compressed by the weight of the aquarium?

Homework Equations



deltaL = F*L_0/(Y*A)

Y (for Douglas fir) = 1 * 10^10 N/m^2

The Attempt at a Solution



This seems very straight forward, I just need to determine F.
F= ma = m(aquarium)g
but, what is the mass of a 3.00×10^4 L aquarium?
once I determine that, I figure it'll just be:

deltaL = ( m * 9.8 * .8)/(.144 * 10^10) meters
=> 5.44*10^10*m meters

How do I find m ??

Thanks for the help!
 
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houseguest said:
but, what is the mass of a 3.00×10^4 L aquarium?

Since nothing else is given, consider the significant portion of the weight of the aquarium to be due to just water.
 
So I took the mass of water to be 1Kg per liter.
So the m = 3 * 10^4

Then the equation comes out as:


deltaL = ( 3 * 10^4 * 9.8 * .8)/(.144 * 10^10) meters
= 1.63 * 10^-4 m

But I am told this is the incorrect answer.

Any help?

Thanks!
 
What's the total area on which the weight acts, in m2?
 
4*.144 = .576 m^2

but, isn't it asking the deltaL for an individual post?

I thought that I might have to divide the force by 4, but that answer was also incorrect.

Thanks
 
Isn't it 0.0144 m2? Also, it's the pressure (stress) that causes the strain; you need to find the pressure on a single leg before you can calculate the strain. The way you originally had it, the compression distance was independent of the number of legs.

EDIT: Right, 0.00144 m2
 
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Hang on, I see the mistake I made earlier: 3.8 cm x 3.8 cm = .038m x .038m = .00144 m^2 (thanks btw), but wouldn't then total area then be 4 * .00144 = .00576 m^2 ?

Then the pressure would be 3 * 10^4 * 9.8 / .00576.

Then plug in that pressure for F in
deltaL = F*L_0/(Y*A)
Is that right?
 
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Although, it retrospect this can't be right since

deltaL = ( (3 * 10^4 * 9.8) / .00576 * .8) / (.00144 * 10^10) meters

= 2.84 m

and that is way to large to be realistic
 
You divided by area twice.
 
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oh yeah, duh.

Thank you so much for your help! Seriously.
 

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