Calculating Coulomb Force on a Point Charge in a Square Distribution

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The problem involves calculating the Coulomb force on a point charge located at (0,0,5)m due to a uniformly distributed charge along the edges of a square in the z=0 plane. The square has a side length of 4m, and the total charge is 500μC.

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  • Participants discuss the setup of the problem, including the relationship between the charge distribution and the geometry of the square. There are attempts to set up integrals for calculating the electric field and force, with some participants questioning the interpretation of the square's dimensions and charge distribution.

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Some participants have provided guidance on setting up double integrals for the calculation, while others express confusion regarding the problem's wording and the implications of the square's dimensions. There is an ongoing exploration of the calculations, with varying interpretations of the results.

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Participants note the area enclosed by the specified coordinates and question the meaning of the "4m square" in the context of the charge distribution. There is also mention of discrepancies between calculated results and those provided in the problem statement.

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Homework Statement


Find the force on a point of charge of 30μC at (0,0,5)m due to a 4m square int he z=0 plane between x=±2m and y=±2m with a total of 500μC, distributed uniformly.

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R=-x,-y,+5z
dQ=ρdydx=500/4 dydx

dE=dQ(5az) / (4πε0((x2+y2+25)3/2 )
x and y-axis cancel

How to do integral with x2 and y2 in the denominator?

Ans. 4.66azN
 
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... use the relationship of dQ to dx and dy to make a double integral.
 
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Simon Bridge said:
... use the relationship of dQ to dx and dy to make a double integral.
Simon Bridge said:
... use the relationship of dQ to dx and dy to make a double integral.
 
Actually I really don't understand the question. Area enclosed by x=±2 and y=±2 will be 16m square. What does it means by" due to a 4m square "?
 
azizlwl said:
Actually I really don't understand the question. Area enclosed by x=±2 and y=±2 will be 16m square. What does it means by" due to a 4m square "?
Draw a square 4 m per side. Distribute 500 μC uniformly on the edges (so each side of the square is a line segment with 500/4 μC on it.
 
F1d=3x5x9/16 ∫-22 dy (√29d -yay)/(29+y2)3/2
F1d=8.43 x 0.129 =1.087
The integral value using app integral calculator.
F1z=1.087 x 5 /√29 = 1.009.

Total force= 4Naz less than the answer..
 
azizlwl said:
F1d=3x5x9/16 ∫-22 dy (√29d -yay)/(29+y2)3/2
F1d=8.43 x 0.129 =1.087
The integral value using app integral calculator.
F1z=1.087 x 5 /√29 = 1.009.

Total force= 4Naz less than the answer..
I don't understand what your last line is trying to convey. Can you explain in more detail?
 
4 segments, so I added all that z-axis component. X and y-axis cancelled. The answer is 4.66azN
 
So your result is about 4 N and the answer given in the text is 4.66 N ?

I'm inclined to agree with your result over that of the book.
 
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