Calculating Curie Constant for Iron Ammonium Alum using Curie's Law

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The problem involves calculating the Curie constant for iron ammonium alum using Curie's Law, based on provided temperature and magnetic susceptibility data. Participants are exploring the relationship between temperature and susceptibility to derive the constant.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to rearrange Curie's Law to find the Curie constant using values from a table. Some participants suggest plotting a graph of susceptibility versus inverse temperature to determine the constant from the gradient. Others question the validity of the values and the relationship between different equations involving the Curie constant.

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Participants are actively discussing different methods to calculate the Curie constant and are questioning the assumptions made regarding the variables involved. There is no explicit consensus on the correct approach, and some participants are exploring potential discrepancies in the provided data.

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Participants note that the only information available is the table of values, and there is uncertainty regarding the correct interpretation of the equations related to the Curie constant. The original poster mentions that the online problem indicates whether answers are correct or incorrect without providing a definitive answer.

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HI there..

The problem is given the below table for iron ammonium alum find C the Curie constant for this material..

T(in kelvin).....X_m
15......(129*10^-4)
100......(19.4*10^-4)
200......(9.7*10^-4)
300......(6.5*10^-4)

as X = C/T I thought simply rearrange:
=> XT = C

and so take any two values from above table and plug them into equation:
=> C = 15*(129*10^-4)K.A/T.m ---------where 15 and (129*10^-4) are taken from above table...

However, this is not the correct value for the curie constant for this material...
Can anyone please tell me where I am going wrong?

Thanks

Andrew
 
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It would be better to plot a graph of X vs 1/T. The gradient of that line will give you C.
 
Thanks for your reply...
using your method of plotting X V 1/T the value for C (curie constant) I get is around 0.2...however, this is not in agreement with the answer that I have been provided with.. so am i perhaps overlooking a subtlety in the question?...the only information provided was the table I gave in the previous post...
 
What was the value you are given?
 
It was incorrect to say I was given an answer...It is an online problem and all it tells is if an answer is right or wrong, and according to this, C=0.2 is not correct..
There is also another equation associated with C:

M=C*B/T

Would it be possible to use this to find value of C?
ie. is there some way of find M,B and T using the table I already posted?

Cheers
 
AStaunton said:
M=C*B/T

I assume M is the same as Xm, if that is the case then you cannot get the value of C without knowing values of B for the same T.

If the relation you are given was Xm=C/T then that 'C' is not the same C as above.
 

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