Calculating Dimensional Change in 2-D Loading System with Mechanical Principles

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The discussion revolves around calculating the dimensional change in a bar subjected to a 2-D loading system, focusing on the effects of applied forces and material properties such as Young's modulus and Poisson's ratio. Participants are exploring the necessary calculations for stress, strain, and dimensional changes in both the x and y directions.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on calculating the area of a bar described as "20 millimeters square in section," expressing confusion over converting this to mm².
  • Another participant confirms that the area is indeed 20 mm² and emphasizes the need to convert this to m² for further calculations.
  • A participant describes their process for calculating stress and strain, detailing the steps taken to arrive at the change in dimensions, but expresses uncertainty about the correctness of their calculations.
  • Concerns are raised about unit conversions, specifically the conversion of area from mm² to m², with participants pointing out errors in the original calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need for proper unit conversion and the steps involved in calculating stress and strain. However, there is no consensus on the correctness of the calculations presented, as participants are still refining their understanding and addressing errors.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential misunderstandings of unit conversions and the need for clarity on the application of formulas related to stress and strain in a 2-D loading context.

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Hey guys I am a first timer here. I need some help with a couple of questions I am quite stumped.

1. A bar in a 2-D loading system is 1 metre long and 20 millimeters square in section before loading. Determine the change in its "x" and "y" dimensions if E=200GPa and Poisson's Ratio is 0.3

The force acting in the "x" direction is 60KN and in the "y" direction 40KN.

ok, i know i have to find the stress in the x and y directions first. By dividing the Force by the Area of the bar. e.g. 60000 Newtons/ mm2.

i can't seem to work out what the area of the bar would be, i dnt understand "20 millimeters square in section" i need the area in mm2 also.

Then i would work out the combined strain in the xx direction and yy direction.

Finally to work out the change in length i multiply the strain by the original length.

Any feed back would be great, thanks
 
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tone999 said:
1. A bar in a 2-D loading system is 1 metre long and 20 millimeters square in section before loading. Determine the change in its "x" and "y" dimensions if E=200GPa and Poisson's Ratio is 0.3

The force acting in the "x" direction is 60KN and in the "y" direction 40KN.

ok, i know i have to find the stress in the x and y directions first. By dividing the Force by the Area of the bar. e.g. 60000 Newtons/ mm2.

i can't seem to work out what the area of the bar would be, i dnt understand "20 millimeters square in section" i need the area in mm2 also.
You are directly given the area of the cross section. The area is [tex]A=20 mm^2[/tex] You will need to convert that to [tex]m^2[/tex]. So now you have the combined tensile stress with the bending stress. You also have Poisson's ratio for calculating the transverse strain.

tone999 said:
Then i would work out the combined strain in the xx direction and yy direction.

Finally to work out the change in length i multiply the strain by the original length.

Any feed back would be great, thanks
From there on out you seem to have a good grasp of the problem.
 
Hi Fred thanks for the reply :). I think i got a little messed up with my formula but hopefully its ok this time if you could take a look?

To get the stress in the axial direction i divided the force (60,000N) by the area 20mm2 (0.0004m) which gave me 150,000,000 or 150x10 to the power of 6.

Then to get the axial strain i divided the stress 150,000,000 by the Elastic modulus 200x10 to the power of 9 which gave me 0.00075.

Then to get the change in the x direction i multiply the strain in the x direction by the orignal length, 0.00075 x 1 = 0.0075m or 0.75mm ?

Then to get the lateral or transverse strain i multiply poisson's ratio by the axial strain. 0.3 x 0.0075 = 0.000225

Finally to get the change in the y direction i multiply the y strain by the original length 0.000225 x 0.02 = -0.0045mm

Does that sound right?
 
tone999 said:
To get the stress in the axial direction i divided the force (60,000N) by the area 20mm2 (0.0004m) which gave me 150,000,000 or 150x10 to the power of 6.

Watch out for the units! [tex]1 [mm^2] = 1 \cdot 10^{-6} [m^2][/tex].
 
Like was already mentioned, your units conversion is not correct on your area. The original area is [tex]A = 20 mm^2[/tex], that equates to [tex]A = 20x10^{-6} m^2[/tex]
 

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