Calculating electrical energy over time

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating electrical energy stored in a battery over time, specifically when current and voltage are applied. Participants explore the relationship between power, energy, and time, considering both constant and variable voltage scenarios.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant poses a question about what is being added to the battery when generating 5 amps at 1 volt and how to calculate the accumulated energy over time.
  • Another participant states the relationship between power and energy, defining power as energy added per unit time.
  • A participant explains the units of amperes and volts, linking them to the calculation of power and energy in joules.
  • Concerns are raised about scenarios where voltage is not constant, questioning whether this affects the constancy of power and the validity of the equation E=PT.
  • Discussion introduces the concept of 'instantaneous power' in contexts where voltage and current may vary, particularly in AC circuits.
  • A participant suggests that if voltage changes, current likely changes as well, leading to a discussion about integrating power over time to find energy.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty about the implications of variable voltage on power calculations. There is no consensus on how to approach energy calculations when voltage is not constant, indicating multiple competing views on the topic.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the assumption of constant power in the E=PT equation and the need for integration in cases of variable power, which remains unresolved in the discussion.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in electrical engineering, physics, or anyone looking to understand energy calculations in electrical systems.

anj16
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Hello,

Let's say I am generating 5 amp at a constant 1 volt and storing it in a battery without any loss of energy. The question is what am I adding to the battery? Am I adding power as a function of time or is it something else? So say if I were to calculate how much energy has accumulated after 5 hours how would I do that?

Thank you.
 
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Ah I see, thank you.
 
Amp means coulomb per second. Volt means Joule per coulomb.
therefor V x I means Joules per second = power.
power x time = energy in Joules
 
What if my voltage isn't constant? Doesn't that mean that my power isn't constant either? And doesn't E=PT rely on constant power?
 
you would then find yourself talking about 'instantaneous power'. If the voltage changes presumably the current also changes.
An interesting example is in AC circuits where V and I are changing and can be out of step.
 
what do you mean by instantaneous power? Wait do you mean to take the integral of the power function with respect to time?
 
anj16 said:
What if my voltage isn't constant? Doesn't that mean that my power isn't constant either?
Sure.

anj16 said:
And doesn't E=PT rely on constant power?
You're right again. E(t) = \int_{t0}^t P(\tau) \mathrm{d}\tau is true in general.
 

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