Calculating Electron Velocity: Ek = ½ MV^2

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The discussion revolves around calculating the velocity of an electron using the kinetic energy formula, specifically in the context of its motion through a potential difference. The subject area includes concepts from classical mechanics and electromagnetism.

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  • Participants discuss the application of the kinetic energy formula and question the use of the electron's charge as kinetic energy. There is an exploration of the relationship between voltage and electron velocity, with some participants suggesting a misunderstanding of the concepts involved.

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Some guidance has been offered regarding the application of relativistic effects on mass and velocity, indicating that while high voltages can increase velocity, they cannot exceed the speed of light. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly concerning the assumptions made about kinetic energy and voltage.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the definitions and values used in the calculations, particularly the distinction between kinetic energy and the charge of the electron. The discussion is framed within the constraints of homework help, emphasizing clarity and understanding over direct solutions.

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Physics help PLEASE!

How fast will the electron be travelling?

Ek = ½ MV^2
V = 2Ek/M
V = √2Ek/M
= √ 2 x 1.6x10^-19/9.1 x 10^-31
= ?
This number is too high since it implies that a larger voltage (say 10) would make the electron travel faster than light. The reason is?

Cheers for the help
 
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1.6x10^-19

Why did you plug in the above number for the kinetic energy in your expression? This is the charge of an electron (in coulombs).

I am not sure what you are doing, and I certainly don't see how voltage enters into it.

Keep in mind this thread should be in the HW help section.
 
I think Brooke is working out the velocity an electron gets when it moves through a 1 volt potential.

qV = \frac{1}{2}mv^2
v = \sqrt{\frac{2qV}{m}} = \sqrt{\frac{2V \times 1.6\times 10^{-19}}{9.1 \times 10^{-31}}} = \sqrt{4V \times 10^{11}}

Brooke, the reason why it appears if you put in a large enough V you get v>c, it is because KE = 0.5mv^2 is a Newtonian expression, it assumes that the mass of an object is constant, but relativity says that energy has mass, so if you've an object which has loads of kinetic energy it's going to have a noticably increased mass.

If you plugged in q, V and the electron rest mass into relativistic equations you'd find that no matter how high you push V you'll never get a speed higher than light. Current particle accelerators can produce particle experiements with over 1 trillion electron volts in energy, and as yet nothing has been seen to move faster than light.
 
Thanks a lot, that completely answered my question :cool: CHEERS!o:)
 

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