Calculating Error in Multiple Independent Variables

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the uncertainty in a function of multiple independent variables, specifically the function F(x,y,z) = x^4 + 2y^3 + 5yz + 5. The original poster is attempting to understand how to apply the given equation for error calculation, Δfx(x,y,z) = abs(f(x+Δx,y,z)-f(x,y,z)), while incorporating the uncertainties represented by dx, dy, and dz.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the clarity of the original question and the notation used. There are attempts to derive an algebraic expression for the uncertainty in F due to uncertainty in x, with some participants suggesting that the original poster may have made algebraic errors in their calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the original poster's attempts and questioning the assumptions made regarding the error. Some guidance has been offered regarding the proper expansion of the function and the need for clarity in notation.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding whether the error should be assumed to be small or arbitrary, and the original poster has not provided the complete question context, which may affect the clarity of the discussion.

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Homework Statement



Okay so I was given this question to start calculating error on other problems.

Consider the equation F(x,y,z) = x^4+2y^3+5yz+5. Let the uncertainty in x be represented by the variable dx, the uncertainty in y be represented by the variable dy, and the uncertainty in z be represented by the variable dz.

Homework Equations



I was given this equation to work from Δfx(x,y,z) = abs(f(x+Δx,y,z)-f(x,y,z))


The Attempt at a Solution



Okay so I started to use the equation I was given, only substituting dx for Δx. Then I "solved" for Δfx to get Δx*y*z. Only that is not the right answer.

I am not sure how to incorporate the equation and I am unclear on how to proceed with this problem.
 
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You haven't actually stated the question, you've only given some the parameters for it. Is the question to find the error in F? And what is Δfx? Your notation isn't clear. You might find section 9 of this resource useful, particularly the bit near the end.
 
Okay I apologize, the actual question is to find an algebraic expression for the uncertainty in the function due to the uncertainty in x.
 
I think you are just making an algebraic error. If you expand out [itex](x+\Delta x)^4[/itex], you will have many more terms left over after cancellation than just the one you gave. Without seeing more of your work, I can't say where you've gone wrong.
 
Also, are you supposed to assume the error is small, or arbitrary? It would be very helpful to see the entire question.
 
Okay so here is what I tried to do. Though something is still off and I am not sure what I am doing wrong.

Δfx = abs(f(x+Δx,y,z)-f(x,y,z))
Δfx = abs((x+Δx)yz - x^4-2y^3-5yz-5)
Δfx = abs(xyz+Δxyz-x^4-2y^3-5yz-5)
 
You've forgotten the power of four in the first term. It's not [itex](x+\Delta x)[/itex], it's [itex](x+\Delta x)[/itex].

Edit: and you've forgotten the remaining three terms in [itex]f(x+\Delta x)[/itex], the additional [itex]+2y^3 + 5yz + 5[/itex].

Edit2: And I'm not sure why you're multiplying the first term by [itex]yz[/itex].
 
From the above, it seems you're confused about what [itex]f(x+\Delta x,y,z)[/itex] means. It means that in your original formula, you need to replace everywhere you see [itex]x[/itex] with [itex]x+\Delta x[/itex].
 

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