Calculating Escape Velocity for Reaching Altitude of 800km

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The discussion revolves around calculating the escape velocity required for a body to reach an altitude of 800 km above the Earth's surface, considering gravitational potential energy and kinetic energy principles. The subject area includes gravitational physics and energy conservation.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the relationship between kinetic energy and gravitational potential energy, questioning the initial and final potential energy expressions. There are attempts to derive the escape velocity using energy conservation principles, with some participants verifying calculations and assumptions.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback on each other's reasoning and calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct expressions for potential energy, and there is a mix of interpretations regarding the initial conditions and energy states.

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Participants are working under the assumption of no air resistance and are discussing the implications of minimum velocity conditions. There are also considerations regarding the initial potential energy of the body on the Earth's surface.

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Q: In the absenceof air resistance, the least speed with which a body must be projected vertically upward from the Earth's surface if it is to reach an altitude of 800km is...

800km = 8.00x10^5 m
radius of Earth = 6.37x10^6 m
mass of Earth = 5.99x10^24 kg

Kf +Uf = Ki + Ui
0 + 0 = 1/2 mv^2 + (- G Me m / Re + 800km )
1/2 mv^2 = G Me m / Re +800km
m drops out
v = square root of [ (2)(6.67x10^-11)(5.99x10^24)/(7.17x10^6) ]
v = 1.06x10^4 m/s

is this right? thanks in advance for the help
 
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Look at your Uf and Ui. Are you sure that Uf is 0? Are you sure about that expression for Ui?

-Dale
 
The change in kinetic energy = change in gravitational potential energy if one neglects air resistance (i.e. nonconservative forces).

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/gpot.html

So the objective is to find the initial velocity at which a projectile will leave the Earth's surface, r1 = re, and travel to a radius, r2 = re + 800 km.

So there is an initial KE and GPE and a final KE and GPE, the total energy (KE + GPE) being equal. KE = kinetic energy and GPE being gravitational potential energy.

The minimum speed coincides with KEf = 0, and thus KEi = 1/2 mvi2 = [itex]\Delta[/itex]GPE.
 
Your initial potential energy muz include the energy of the body on the surface of the earth... It's not zero.
 
ok i think i have it now

Kf + Uf = Ki + Ui
0 [because its a minimum velocity] + ( -G Me m / Re +800km ) [potential at 800km] = 1/2 m v^2 + ( -G Me m / Re ) [potential at the begining, the surface of the earth]

then through some algebra we can solve for v

2 [ {-(6.67x10^-11)(5.98x10^24)/(6.37x10^6)+(8.00x10^5)} + {(6.67x10^-11)(5.98x10^24)/(6.37x10^6)} ] = v^2

v = 3.74x10^3 m/s is this right?

hoping my arithmetic is right but i think i got it thanks in advancefor verification!
 
Yup.. tat shld be the correct ans.
 

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