Calculating Final Angular Speed in a Rotating System with Added Mass

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The problem involves a solid horizontal cylinder rotating about a fixed vertical axis, with a piece of putty dropped onto it, leading to a question about the final angular speed of the system. The context includes concepts of angular momentum and rotational inertia.

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  • Participants discuss the conservation of angular momentum and the effect of added mass on the system's rotational inertia. There are questions about the appropriate mass to use in calculations and how to determine the moment of inertia for the putty.

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Some participants have offered insights into the conservation principles involved, while others express confusion about the problem and seek further clarification. Multiple interpretations of the problem setup are being explored.

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There is uncertainty regarding the initial conditions of the putty and its moment of inertia, as well as the specific equations to apply in this scenario.

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A solid horizontal cylinder of mass 13.1 kg and radius 1.22m rotates with an angular speed of 2.99 rad/s about a fixed vertical axis through its center. A 0.258kg piece of putty is dropped vertically onto the cylinder at a point 0.853m from the center of rotation, and sticks to the cylinder. What is the final angular speed of the system. Answer in rad/s



Now, I know the solution to this question involves conservation of momentum.
mgh=the sum of rotational and translational kinetic energy

i'm guessing the mass to be used initially is that of the cylinder, while the mass to be used to calculate the P.E from the height, is the mass of the cylinder and putty. Can anyone confirm this?
 
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You'll need to consider the rotational inertia of the system before and after the putty is dropped. How does adding the putty change the rotational inertia?
 
I need help with this one also... any more incite would be appreciated. Not really understanding this problem.
 
Any hint as to what equation to use? pleeeaaassee :)
 
Before the putty is dropped its not rotating so it has no Angular momentum... after its dropped it has a angular momentum...

you have to use the law of conservation of angular momentum where

initial = just cylinder
final = cylinder + putty
for final: w(Icylinder+Iputty)

L=Iw

i think :X
 
but how do you find the moment of inertia for the putty? is it just MR^2?
 
Momentum09 said:
but how do you find the moment of inertia for the putty? is it just MR^2?
Yes. Just treat it as a point mass. (Note that this thread is quite old!)
 

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