Calculating Fmax and Fmin for an inclined block with static friction

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The problem involves calculating the minimum and maximum forces acting on a block resting on an inclined surface, considering static friction. The block has a mass of 3.7 kg, an incline angle of 52 degrees, and a static friction coefficient of 0.40.

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  • Participants discuss the application of forces acting on the block, including the gravitational force component and the static friction force. There are differing views on how to account for these forces in the calculations for Fmin and Fmax.

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Some participants have offered insights into the relationships between the applied force and the gravitational force components. There is recognition of potential misunderstandings regarding the direction of forces and their contributions to the calculations. Multiple interpretations of the problem setup are being explored.

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Participants are navigating through the implications of the applied force's direction and its relationship to the gravitational force acting on the block. There is acknowledgment of confusion regarding the problem's details and calculations.

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I'm having trouble with this one problem, I've tried everything with my given notes, but the right answer isn't coming up:

A block with a mass of 3.7 kg is placed at rest on a surface inclined at an angle of 52 degrees above the horizontal. The coefficient of static friction between the block and the surface is 0.40, and a force of magnitude F pushes upward on the block, parallel to the inclined surface. Calculate Fmin and Fmax.

For Fmax, I got 8.9, (had to report to 2 sigfigs), by using the formula fs,max = mu(static coefficient) x N. N = mgcos(theta). My answer was wrong. Please, if anyone can help me find how to do this, it would be greatly appreciated!
 
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I think your problem is in the fact that the applied force is in the horizontal direction. Consider the fact that only the component of F along the hill can act against the static friction force. So, when considering the relationships between friction and the maximum and minimum values for F, you are only going to want to consider the component of F along the hill. Do you see how this will change the relationships you are using?
 
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No, applied force is parallel to the slope. He forgot to take into account the component of gravitational force, that is parallel to the ground.
 
Yo forgot to add the additional force acting in the parallel dimension of the gravitational force which will be (sin(52))(36.26) and then you would add that to your 8.9 and get 37.5 Newtons
 
Lojzek said:
No, applied force is parallel to the slope. He forgot to take into account the component of gravitational force, that is parallel to the ground.

glennpagano44 said:
Yo forgot to add the additional force acting in the parallel dimension of the gravitational force which will be (sin(52))(36.26) and then you would add that to your 8.9 and get 37.5 Newtons

Wow yes, you are correct. I don't know what I was thinking here... I must have read the problem incorrectly. I'm sorry for any confusion I caused.
 

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