Calculating Force for Uniform Deceleration in a Mass-Force Relationship

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The discussion revolves around calculating the force required for uniform deceleration in a mass-force relationship, specifically involving two cars with different masses and a given force acting on the first car.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between force, mass, and acceleration, with one attempting to calculate momentum and time, while others suggest using Newton's second law (F=ma) to find acceleration and force for the second car.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided calculations and reasoning, while others have questioned initial interpretations of the problem. There appears to be a productive exchange of ideas regarding the correct application of formulas.

Contextual Notes

Participants note confusion regarding the relevance of the initial speed and its impact on the calculations, indicating a need to clarify assumptions related to the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


A 2450 kg car traveling to the west at 16.4 m/s slows down uniformly under a force of 8930 N to the east.
a) How much force would be required to cause the same acceleration on a car of mass 3170 kg? Answer in units of N.


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The Attempt at a Solution


I found in the first cart 2450x16.4 = 40,180 kg*m/s (the momentum)
Since 8930 N is the same as 8930 kg*m/s^2
40,180 / 8930 = 4.49900449 seconds

I tried to use a similar with the second cart 3170 kg, but the problem is I don't know the force since I'm trying to find it I got stuck.
 
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4.49...s is the time it takes for the car to decelerate to a stop not the value of its acceleration...dont you want to use F=ma for this question? ;0)
 
That's what I thought too gabba, but then figured I was wrong to having it be a question.

F = ma
(-)8930 = 2450a
a = -3.64 m/s^2

F = ma
F = (3170)(3.64 m/s^2)
F ≅ 11,554 N
 
Looks good to me...the fact that they told you the initial speed was meant to throw you off.
 
O I see I totally misread the question... yea the intial speed threw me off... i under stand it now. thanks a lot!
 

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