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My argument is that heat lost by lump of mass converted to ice will be gained by remaining water. But how do I find heat gained ?
The discussion revolves around calculating the heat gained by supercooled water when a portion of it freezes into ice. Participants explore the concepts of heat transfer, specifically the heat of fusion, and the implications of an insulated system on energy changes. The conversation includes mathematical reasoning and assumptions regarding the final state of the system.
Participants do not reach a consensus on the calculation of heat gained or the final temperature of the system. Multiple competing views and uncertainties regarding the assumptions and calculations remain evident throughout the discussion.
There are unresolved assumptions regarding the final temperature of the mixture and the treatment of heat of fusion in the calculations. The discussion reflects differing approaches to establishing the internal energy states of the system.
This temperature cannot be found here. If I assume this temperature 0 degree,I get answer as 1/9 .But,I am doubtful.Chestermiller said:The system is assumed to be insulated so that the change in internal energy from the initial state to the final state must be zero. Plus, the problem statement strongly implies that there will be both ice and liquid water present in the final state. What temperature do you think that mixture would be at?
Let M is original supercooled water and m is mass of lump formed.phyzguy said:How did you arrive at 1/9? Please show us your work. I think that you did not take into account the heat of fusion of water.
The part that became ice also increased in temperature from -10 to zero.gianeshwar said:Let M is original supercooled water and m is mass of lump formed.
Heat lost 80 m
Heat gained(M-m)(0-(-10))
So m/M=1/9