Calculating Heat of Vaporization for Ethyl Alcohol at 65°C

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The discussion revolves around calculating the heat required to vaporize ethyl alcohol at a specific temperature, focusing on the relationship between force (in Newtons) and mass in the context of heat calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the conversion of force (N) to mass and question the relevance of various thermodynamic properties, such as boiling point and specific heat. There is also discussion about the application of Hess's Law in this context.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, raising questions about necessary information and clarifying concepts. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between heat of vaporization and temperature, though no consensus has been reached on the best approach.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the application of certain principles, such as Hess's Law, and the original poster's level of understanding is noted, as they are self-studying physics for the first time.

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Homework Statement


How many kilocalories of heat are needed to change 143N of ethyl alcohol at 65°C to vapour?

Homework Equations


Lv = Q/m

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm really stuck. I have no idea how to work the units of N with heat problems. I've looked online and in my book and have no idea how to get to the solution but I know the final answer is 3090kcal. A nudge in the right direction is greatly appreciated!
 
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nmi13 said:

Homework Statement


How many kilocalories of heat are needed to change 143N of ethyl alcohol at 65°C to vapour?

Homework Equations


Lv = Q/m

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm really stuck. I have no idea how to work the units of N with heat problems. I've looked online and in my book and have no idea how to get to the solution but I know the final answer is 3090kcal. A nudge in the right direction is greatly appreciated!
Well, what other information do you have to work with?

What's the BP of ethanol?

What's the specific heat of ethanol in the liquid phase?

What's the heat of vaporization for ethanol?

Do you know what a Newton is?
 
Ok so I have:
the BP= 78.5 C
the specific heat = 0.58 kcal/kg
and the heat of vaporization = 204 kcal/kg
and 1 N = 1kg*m/s^2
I still don't know where to go with this. I'm in my first ever physics course and it is completely independent. Only notes I have to work with is the book and there is nothing that I can compare this to.
 
Correction: specific heat = 0.58 kcal/kgC
 
If it weighs 143N, what is its mass? At what temperature is that 204 kcal/kg? Have you heard of Hess's Law?

Chet
 
Chestermiller said:
If it weighs 143N, what is its mass? At what temperature is that 204 kcal/kg? Have you heard of Hess's Law?

Chet

Chet, it's not clear why Hess's Law would be helpful here. There's no chemical reaction occurring, AFAIK, just vaporizing some ethanol.
 
SteamKing said:
Chet, it's not clear why Hess's Law would be helpful here. There's no chemical reaction occurring, AFAIK, just vaporizing some ethanol.
Hi SteamKing,

Thanks. Even though hess's law appears to officially apply only to heats of reaction, the basic principle is still the same for phase change: The change in enthalpy between two thermodynamic equilibrium states of a system is independent of path. I guess I thought that this was a more general statement of hess's law. The basic principle can still be applied to determining the heat of vaporization at one temperature if you know the heat of vaporization at another temperature and the heat capacities of the vapor and liquid. Of course, you may have to make a small correction for the effect of pressure on enthalpy of the liquid phase, even if the gas phase is treated as an ideal gas. But this shouldn't be any big deal.

Chet
 
Chestermiller said:
Hi SteamKing,

Thanks. Even though hess's law appears to officially apply only to heats of reaction, the basic principle is still the same for phase change: The change in enthalpy between two thermodynamic equilibrium states of a system is independent of path. I guess I thought that this was a more general statement of hess's law. The basic principle can still be applied to determining the heat of vaporization at one temperature if you know the heat of vaporization at another temperature and the heat capacities of the vapor and liquid. Of course, you may have to make a small correction for the effect of pressure on enthalpy of the liquid phase, even if the gas phase is treated as an ideal gas. But this shouldn't be any big deal.

Chet
Chet, I appreciate the explanation, but I think that Hess's Law is a little advanced for the OP. He appears to be self-studying physics for the first time (See Post #3).
 
SteamKing said:
Chet, I appreciate the explanation, but I think that Hess's Law is a little advanced for the OP. He appears to be self-studying physics for the first time (See Post #3).
Yeah, I can see that. But there doesn't seem to be an easier way of doing it than that (at least not to me).

Chet
 

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