Calculating Impact Force of Man Falling onto Cushion

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The problem involves calculating the impact force experienced by a man of mass 70 kg who falls from a height of 7 m onto a rescue cushion that is 2 m high when inflated. The man comes to rest 0.2 seconds after reaching the cushion. The discussion focuses on the calculations related to impact force and the relationship between this force and the man's weight.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of change in momentum and the correct interpretation of forces acting on the man during the fall. There are questions regarding the calculation methods used and the assumptions made about momentum and energy.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on finding the velocity of the man just before impact and using this to calculate momentum. Others are questioning the original poster's calculations and suggesting that the change in momentum may have been misinterpreted. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly regarding the forces acting on the man.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the need to consider the change in potential energy to determine the man's velocity before impact, as well as the distinction between net force and impact force. The original poster's calculations have been challenged, indicating a lack of consensus on the correct approach.

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Homework Statement


the question goes like this
a man of mass 70kg falls onto a rescue cushion from a height of 7 m he comes to rest 0.2s after he reaches the cushion the cushion is 2m high when inflated
a)find the impact force acting on him (take the weight of the man into account)
b)by how many times is the impact force greater than his weight?


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The Attempt at a Solution


a) For a, I first calculated the change of momentum of the man, which is 700kgms-1, then the impact force will be the change of momentum over time, which gives an answer of 3500N, which is a wrong answers since the answer in the book is 4200, I don't get it...
 
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eureka_beyond said:
then the impact force will be the change of momentum over time,
No, the change in momentum over time gives the net force on the man. The impact force (the force of the cushion on the man) is only one of the forces acting on him. What's the other?
 
Your calculation for the change in momentum is wrong. Or rather, the answer you give is wrong. How did u calculate this?

It seems you have taken the change of momentum as his weight. That is, multiplied his mass 70kg with gravity ~10. However this is NOT the change in momentum.

You need to consider the change in his potential energy to calculate his velocity.
 
You first need to find the velocity (V)of the man just before he strikes the cushion.
(Use the familiar equations of motion for falling through a height of 7m onto cushion 2m thick with acceleration due to gravity.)
Use this velocity, combined with his mass to find his momentum just before he strikes the cushion.
Then use your impulse formula to find the impact force. (eta. noting the point in the question about his weight)
 
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H_man said:
Your calculation for the change in momentum is wrong. Or rather, the answer you give is wrong. How did u calculate this?

It seems you have taken the change of momentum as his weight. That is, multiplied his mass 70kg with gravity ~10. However this is NOT the change in momentum.

You need to consider the change in his potential energy to calculate his velocity.
FYI: There's nothing wrong with the OP's calculation for the change in momentum. That's not the problem.
 

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