Calculating Initial Speed of 2.7g Ball Launched at 45° with 50V Solenoid Input

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the initial speed of a 2.7 g ball launched at a 45-degree angle using a solenoid input of 50V. The discussion centers around the relationship between potential energy and kinetic energy in the context of energy conservation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to relate voltage to potential energy and apply conservation of energy principles, but questions the validity of their calculated speed. Other participants question the interpretation of voltage as energy and clarify the distinction between volts and joules.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of energy conversion in the context of the solenoid's operation. There is no explicit consensus on the interpretation of the energy input, but some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between voltage and energy.

Contextual Notes

Participants are discussing the assumptions related to energy conversion in the solenoid and the potential misinterpretation of the voltage input as energy. The original poster's calculation is based on the assumption of energy conservation, which is being scrutinized.

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Homework Statement



A ball ( 2.7 g ) is launched at a 45 degree angle with a solenoid input of 50V. What is the initial speed of the ball?

Homework Equations



KE = 0.5mv^2
PE = mgh
dy = vy(0)t + 0.5at^2
dx = vx(0)t


The Attempt at a Solution



Voltage is potential energy and I think the mechanical energy is being conserved so:

PE=KE

50 J = 0.5mv^2
sqrt(50 J*2/0.0027 kg) = v
192.5 m/s = v

I believe this speed is wrong, because it is numerically huge. Can someone tell me how to do it?

Thanks
 
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I have a question for you, why did you say that 50 volt is 50 jole?
 
Hi Hooke's Law! :smile:

You are referring to a solenoid input of 50 V.

Can I assume that you meant 50 J instead of 50 V, that is, joules instead of volts?

In that case your calculation is correct.
It can be a pretty high speed due to the mass that is pretty low.

Cheers!
 
I like Serena said:
Hi Hooke's Law! :smile:

You are referring to a solenoid input of 50 V.

Can I assume that you meant 50 J instead of 50 V, that is, joules instead of volts?

In that case your calculation is correct.
It can be a pretty high speed due to the mass that is pretty low.

Cheers!

I don't get it! .. how can we make such statement?
 
thebigstar25 said:
I don't get it! .. how can we make such statement?

If you put 50 joules of energy into a solenoid, that will be converted into kinetic energy.
This is conservation of energy, where we're neglecting any energy that is converted into waste heat.

To do this you would need to set a voltage on the solenoid, generating a current for a certain time. The product of these (or rather the integral) yields the total energy invested in the solenoid.
 

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