Calculating integral using polar coordinates

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The discussion revolves around calculating the double integral $\iint_D \frac{1}{(x^2+y^2)^2}dxdy$ using polar coordinates, where the region $D$ is defined by the inequalities $x+y\geq 1$ and $x^2+y^2\leq 1$. Participants explore the transformation to polar coordinates and the implications of the inequalities on the limits of integration.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes using the transformation $T(r,\theta)=(r\cos \theta, r\sin\theta)$ to express the inequalities in polar coordinates.
  • Another participant suggests squaring the equation $r\cos(\theta)+r\sin(\theta)=1$ to derive relationships involving $\sin(2\theta)$ and the limits for $r$.
  • A different approach is presented that simplifies the inequality $r\cos\theta + r\sin\theta \geq 1$ to $r \geq \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}\sin(\theta+\frac{\pi}{4})}$, indicating a different method to find the lower bound for $r$.
  • Participants discuss the implications of the inequalities on the bounds for $r$, with one participant noting that their lower bound differs from another's, prompting a question about potential errors.
  • Another participant reassures that both expressions for the lower bound are correct, indicating they represent the same condition in different forms.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the transformations and the bounds for $r$, but there is a specific point of contention regarding the expressions for the lower bound of $r$. The discussion remains unresolved regarding which expression is preferred, though both are acknowledged as valid.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes various expressions for the bounds of $r$ derived from the inequalities, highlighting the dependence on the specific transformations used. There is also an acknowledgment of the conditions under which the inequalities hold true, particularly in the first quadrant.

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Hey! :o

Using polar coordinates I want to calculate $\iint_D \frac{1}{(x^2+y^2)^2}dxdy$, where $D$ is the space that is determined by the inequalities $x+y\geq 1$ and $x^2+y^2\leq 1$.

We consider the function $T$ with $(x,y)=T(r,\theta)=(r\cos \theta, r\sin\theta)$.

From the inequality $x^2+y^2\leq 1$ we get that $r^2\leq 1 \Rightarrow -1\leq r\leq 1$. Since $r$ must be positive we get that $0\leq r\leq 1$.

How could we use the inequality $x+y\geq 1$ ? What do we get from $r\cos \theta+ r\sin\theta\geq 1$ ? (Wondering)
 
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Suppose we set:

$$r\cos(\theta)+r\sin(\theta)=1$$

Square:

$$1+\sin(2\theta)=\frac{1}{r^2}$$

Also, consider from the other equation, we look at:

$$r^2=1$$

So, we then have:

$$\sin(2\theta)=0$$

And so we ultimately find:

$$0\le\theta\le\frac{\pi}{2}$$

Outer radius:

$$r_1=1$$

Inner radius:

$$r_2=\frac{1}{\sqrt{\sin(2\theta)+1}}$$

Hence:

$$\frac{1}{\sqrt{\sin(2\theta)+1}}\le r\le1$$
 
Alternatively, we can already see that $D$ is in the first quadrant, so $0\le \theta\le\frac \pi 2$, and:
$$r\cos\theta + r\sin\theta \ge 1 \quad\Rightarrow\quad
r\sqrt 2\sin(\theta+\frac\pi 4) \ge 1 \quad\Rightarrow\quad
r \ge \frac 1{\sqrt 2\sin(\theta+\frac\pi 4)}
$$
 
We have that $0\leq \theta \leq \frac{\pi}{2}$.

Then from the inequality $x+y\geq 1$ we get the following: $$r\cos \theta+r\sin\theta\geq 1 \Rightarrow r(\cos \theta+\sin\theta)\geq 1$$
At this interval of $\theta$ we have that $\cos\theta\geq 0$ and $\sin\theta\geq 0$ and so $\cos\theta+\sin\theta\geq 0$.
So, we get $$r\geq \frac{1}{\cos \theta+\sin\theta}$$

From the inequality $x^2+y^2\leq 1$ we get that $r^2\leq 1\Rightarrow -1\leq r\leq 1$.

Therefore, we get $$\frac{1}{\cos \theta+\sin\theta}\leq r\leq 1$$

Your under bound is different. Have I done something wrong? (Wondering)
 
mathmari said:
Your under bound is different. Have I done something wrong? (Wondering)

Nope. It's all correct. You have yet another expression for the same thing. (Nod)
 
I like Serena said:
Nope. It's all correct. You have yet another expression for the same thing. (Nod)

Ah ok! Great! Thank you very much! (Smile)
 

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