Calculating laser fluence - so confused

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The discussion revolves around calculating laser fluence based on given laser parameters, including spot size, pulse duration, repetition rate, laser power, and wavelength. Participants express confusion regarding the calculation process and seek clarification on the definitions and methods involved.

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Main Points Raised

  • The original poster (OP) provides specific parameters for calculating laser fluence and expresses confusion about the results, which vary significantly.
  • One participant suggests showing the OP's calculation attempt to better understand the confusion.
  • Another participant clarifies that fluence is defined as Joules/m² and suggests dividing the energy of the laser pulse by the spot size.
  • A different participant points out that the previous response only provided units and questions the source of the OP's confusion, suggesting that the OP might be looking for particle flux instead of energy flux.
  • One participant notes the unusual repetition rate for a laser pointer and speculates that the question may be a homework problem.
  • A participant provides a detailed calculation of fluence, including the conversion of average power to pulse energy based on the repetition rate and the area of the spot size, while emphasizing the importance of consistent units.

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Participants express differing views on the clarity of the definition of fluence and the calculation method. There is no consensus on the source of the OP's confusion, and multiple interpretations of the parameters and calculations are presented.

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Some participants highlight the need for more information to clarify the OP's confusion, indicating that assumptions about the definitions and calculations may vary. The discussion includes potential ambiguities regarding the terms used and the specific calculations required.

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Calculating laser fluence -- so confused

Hi,

I'm now endeavoring to calculate laser fluence using some laser parameters.

The required parameters to solve the fluence are given as:

Spot size: 10mm diameter
Pulse duration: 200ms
Repetition rate: 2-3 (Hz)
Laser Power: 200mW (when measured by a power meter)
Wavelength: 660nm

I have several different results ranging from 0.18J/cm^2 to 0.7J/cm^2

I'm always so confused with fluence calculation.

Anybody please can help me clearly?
 
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Fluence is defined as Joules/m^2.

So, divide the energy of your laser pulse by the spot size.

Claude.
 
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That's the units, not the definition ... but this is what I was wondering too.
If that was all there was to the question, then whence the confusion?

Maybe OP wants the particle flux rather than the energy flux (divide by energy per particle).
Maybe some averaging is needed over several pulses.
Need more information to be sure.

660nm 200mW sounds like a familiar spec for a laser pointer - but the spot size seems a bit big.
 
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Ah, yes, correct - it is the units not the definition.

Perhaps it's not clear that "energy" refers specifically to the energy of the laser pulse, which is understandable, since it is not explicit in the units.

2-3 Hz is a strange repetition rate for a laser pointer. Smells like a homework q. to me.

Claude.
 
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Definition of laser fluence: http://lidaris.com/glossary-2/fluence/

It is usually given in joules/cm^2.

The average power is 200 mW, with a rep rate of 2-3 Hz, so the pulse energy is E2=200 mW/2 Hz or E3=200 mW/3 Hz. Thus E2=100 mJ, E3=67 mJ.

The spot size is 10 mm diameter, or 0.5 cm radius ... thus spot size is A=pi (0.5)^2 cm^2 = pi/4

So the fluence is F2=400/pi mJ/cm^2 and F3=266/pi mJ/cm^2.

So the fluence varies from F2=85.8 mJ/cm^2 to F3=127 mJ/cm^2.So: fluence = (average power)/rep rate/area of spot
Just be sure to use consistent units throughout the calculation. I usually do this via a spreadsheet, entering the parameters in their own cells.
 
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