Calculating Lift-Drag Ratio of a Wing Under Flight Conditions

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The discussion revolves around calculating the lift-drag ratio of a wing under specific flight conditions, focusing on the lift gradient, drag coefficients, and the necessary equations to derive the lift coefficient and total drag. The context includes homework-related inquiries and mathematical reasoning.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states the lift gradient of the wing is 0.1179 per degree and seeks to calculate the lift-drag ratio at an angle of attack of 3 degrees.
  • Another participant points out that both lift coefficient (Cl) and drag coefficient (Cd) are needed to compute the lift-drag ratio and questions the interpretation of the lift gradient value.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about how to calculate Cl at 3 degrees, asking if it is simply 3 times the lift gradient or if a graph is needed.
  • One participant suggests that Cl should be calculated as 3 times 0.1179 and clarifies that Cd refers to profile drag, indicating the need for a formula to determine induced drag.
  • A later reply provides a calculation for total drag, combining profile and induced drag, and presents a resulting lift-drag ratio but questions its correctness.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that both Cl and Cd are necessary for calculating the lift-drag ratio, but there is disagreement on how to accurately calculate Cl and the interpretation of the lift gradient. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the correct approach and calculations.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the assumptions made regarding the lift coefficient and the definitions of drag components. The calculations presented depend on the interpretation of the lift gradient and the formulas used for induced drag.

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Homework Statement


"The lift gradient of a wing under actual flight conditions is 0.1179 per degree. Calculate the lift-drag ratio of the wing with an angle of attak of 3 degrees?"

Given is:
altitude=5000 m
velocity=225 m/s
wing area S=149 m2
wing span b=34.5 m
span efficiency factor e1=0.82
Cd (profile drag coefficient) at 3 degrees=0.0062.
ρ∞=0.736 kg/m3
p∞=5.41*10^4 Pa, T∞=255.7 K
cp=1008 J/kg*K

Homework Equations


I don't exactly know which equation to use, that's the whole point of my question. You might can use a=dCl/dalpha = a0/(1+(a0/pi*A*e1)). Note that everyting in the equation is in radians. Maybe you can calculate Cl with this equation, and as you know Cd (given) you can calculate the L/D ratio.

The Attempt at a Solution


I've tried several things like the lift gradient equation a=dCl/dalpha=a0/(1+(a0/pi*A*e1), is I can calculate the aspect ratio A (S/b^2). A=35.4^/149≈0.231. I also know the span efficiency factor e1, as this is given (0.82). The fact is that I don't know if this equation is right.
The other thing I know, is that the equation for lift drag ratio is L/D = Cl/Cd. Am I right to say that we know Cd? This is 0.0062. Then we only have to calculate the lift coefficient, but I don't know how to do that without the lift given or the mass of the aircraft. (as the equation is L=Cl*(0.5*ρ*V^2)*S.

Can anyone help me with this problem?
 
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You need both Cl and Cd to get the ratio. Look at the question again - you are given the lift gradient. What exactly is this 0.1179 that increases for every degree? Can you thus figure out the corresponding value at 3 degrees? For Cd, you need the total drag, which is the sum of profile drag and induced drag. 0.0062 is only the profile drag. If you know the equation for induced drag, the information provided is enough to answer the question.
 
i cannot figure out the value at 3 degree ?
is it simply 3*0.1179 or we have to look at some graph
please help me !
 
Cl should be 3 * 0.1179. Cd normally refers to the sum of profile and induced drag, but the problem uses it as Cd (coefficient of profile drag). Assuming that the problem statement is only defining profile drag, then as posted, you'll need a formula to determine induced drag.
 
total drag = profile +induced drag
=: 0.0062 + CL^2/pi*A*e1
=0.0062+ (3*0.1179)^2/p1*7.988*0.82
=0.0062+0.0060795
=0.0122795
then Cl/Cd = 0.3537/0.0122795
=28.804
this is what i got ...but answer is not correct
Is there any mistake ?
thanks in advance!
 

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