Calculating Magnetic Field for a Circular Wire with Given Parameters

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the magnetic field generated by a circular wire with specific parameters. The original poster presents two attempts at solving the problem, which involves applying the magnetic field formula and considering the geometry of the setup.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the magnetic field using a formula but questions the correctness of their approach and the inclusion of current in the calculations. Some participants suggest reconsidering the point of calculation and the vector nature of the magnetic fields involved.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's attempts, providing hints and suggestions for clarification. There is a recognition of the need to correctly apply trigonometry and vector addition in the context of the problem. Multiple interpretations of the attempts are being explored, but there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the original poster's methods.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of the need to consider the current in the magnetic field formula and the geometric setup of the problem, including the positioning of points relative to the wires. The original poster's attempts are noted to have some ambiguity, particularly in the application of the formula and the interpretation of angles.

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Homework Statement


Heres the question: http://imgur.com/aFJFxLa

Homework Equations


B = μ0/2∏r


The Attempt at a Solution


μ0 = 4∏*10^-7
Magnetic field = μ0/2∏r + μ0/2∏r
= μ0/2∏(0.05) + μ0/2∏(0.05)
= 4*10^-5

The answer is 24*10^-6 T. I need some assistance on what i may be doing wrong.

My 2nd attempt at question:
B = μ0/4∏*(5+5)Sin 53.1/(0.08)^2 <== this is still wrong.
 
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Well first of all, you are fergetting something in your formula for the magnetic field...
check it (hint: it will have to depend also on the current, right??)

Then consider in which point you are computing the field (in order to be 5cm away from each wire) and draw the forces in that point... the apply correctly trigonometry (the fields will not be simply aligned, you will have to compute a sum of vectors) and here is the result
 
Opps I forgot to put the current in formula; but I assure you I used it. And can you explain mor about the point, can I pick a point outside the picture I provided, which is 5 cms away from each wire and forms 2 right angle triangles. Also which method should I be using the first one or the 2nd one (1st or 2nd attempt)
 
Actually no one of your attempts is correct (as far as I understand at least, it is difficult to see what is denominator and what is numerator but no problem).

Anyway OK for the fact that you find two right angle triangles. Then you have to compute the value of the field in that point (simply with your formula), and only then you compute (considering that the field vector is tangential to the circumference passing through your point) the components (you will have to compute the angles). Then the components in one direction will cancel while the components in another direction will add up. Do the sum and you're done. By the way, I got really ##24 \mu T##.
 
Isn't what I did with the 1st attempt correct, I just need to add angles and is the hypotense the magnetic field?
 
Ok, yes, if you compute correctly the components you are actually adding (using angles) and use the current, then yes, it is your first attempt
 

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