Calculating Magnetic Forces on Moving Charges in a Magnetic Field

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The discussion revolves around calculating magnetic forces on moving charges in a magnetic field, specifically involving a proton and a current-carrying wire. The original poster presents two problems: one concerning the magnetic force on a proton moving in a magnetic field, and another regarding the magnetic field strength experienced by a wire carrying current.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the appropriate charge to use for the proton and question the absence of a magnetic field strength in the second problem. There are attempts to apply relevant equations for magnetic force and field strength.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided calculations for the magnetic force on the proton and the magnetic field strength for the wire. There is acknowledgment of the formulas used, but no consensus on the correctness of the numerical results has been reached.

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Participants note the assumption that the current and magnetic field are orthogonal, and there is mention of the need for clarity regarding the setup of the problems. Some participants express confusion about the interpretation of the second problem.

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Homework Statement


1. Determine the magnetic force acting on an proton (m = 1.67 x 10-27 kg) moving at 2.9 x 106 m/s in a magnetic field of 6.8 T. The proton is moving south. The magnetic field points straight down.

2. A 6.0 m long wire with 7.0A of current flowing through it experiences a force of 12 N. Determine the magnitude of the magnetic field. You may assume that the current and the magnetic field are 90° to one another.

Homework Equations


1. Fm = qvbsinƟ
2. Fm = IlBsinƟ

The Attempt at a Solution


1. There was no charge given so is it alright to use charge of 1.6x10^-19?
Fm = qvbsinƟ
Fm = (1.6x10^-19 C)(2.9x10^6 m/s)(6.8T) sin 90
Fm = 2.53 x 10^-12 N

2. No magnetic field strength is given so how can i figure out the magnetic field strength?

Thanks
 
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silentcoder said:

Homework Statement


1. Determine the magnetic force acting on an proton (m = 1.67 x 10-27 kg) moving at 2.9 x 106 m/s in a magnetic field of 6.8 T. The proton is moving south. The magnetic field points straight down.

2. A 6.0 m long wire with 7.0A of current flowing through it experiences a force of 12 N. Determine the magnitude of the magnetic field. You may assume that the current and the magnetic field are 90° to one another.

Homework Equations


1. Fm = qvbsinƟ
2. Fm = IlBsinƟ

The Attempt at a Solution


1. There was no charge given so is it alright to use charge of 1.6x10^-19?
Yes. A proton has charge = electron but + instead of -.
Fm = qvbsinƟ
Fm = (1.6x10^-19 C)(2.9x10^6 m/s)(6.8T) sin 90
Fm = 2.53 x 10^-12 N

2. No magnetic field strength is given so how can i figure out the magnetic field strength?

Thanks

What is the force on a wire of length L in a B field if the B field is orthogonal to the wire? Very basic formula ...
 
For number 1 i get: Fm = -3.15x10^-12 N[South]

For number 2 I am having hard time understanding what you are trying to say.
 
silentcoder said:
For number 1 i get: Fm = -3.15x10^-12 N[South]

For number 2 I am having hard time understanding what you are trying to say.

If you'll try to answer my question ... I should have added, the wire has a current i flowing thru it.
 
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rude man said:
If you'll try to answer my question ...

The formula will be F = ILB SinƟ

This is what I get:
F = ILB sin 90
12 N = (7.0 A)(6.0 m)B sin 90
12 N/(7.0 A)(6.0 m) = B sin 90
2/7 = B sin 90
B = 2/7 T
B = 0.29 T
 
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silentcoder said:
The formula will be F = ILB SinƟ

This is what I get:
F = ILB sin 90
12 N = (7.0 A)(6.0 m)B sin 90
12 N/(7.0 A)(6.0 m) = B sin 90
2/7 = B sin 90
B = 2/7 T
B = 0.29 T

Looking good ...
 
rude man said:
Looking good ...

Thanks so were those 2 questions correct?
 
I did not check your numbers but the formulas were correct.
 

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