Calculating Mass & Spring Constant for Oscillation

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving oscillations of a mass-spring system. The original poster presents a scenario where a block attached to a spring oscillates with two different periods based on the mass of the block, seeking to determine the mass and the spring constant.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using the period equations for oscillation to derive relationships between the mass and spring constant. The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to proceed with the equations given the two different periods.

Discussion Status

Some participants suggest that the problem can be approached by setting up two equations based on the two periods provided. There is a focus on solving for the spring constant first and then using that to find the mass, though there is no explicit consensus on the best method to proceed.

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The original poster notes a lack of confidence in their algebraic manipulation and expresses a desire for guidance on starting the equations. There is also mention of formatting issues with the equations in the thread.

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Homework Statement



A block with mass m is attached to the end of a spring with a constant spring k. It oscillates with a period of 2 seconds when pulled. When an additional 2 kg is add to the block it oscillates with a new period of 3 seconds. What is the mass of the black and the spring constant K?

Homework Equations


T = 2pi*sqrt (m+2/k) my apologies for the format. The symbols will not post for some reason.

The Attempt at a Solution


I attempted to use the about equation above and solve for m. Of course I ran into the problem that I do not know the spring constant k as well. I tried to find K by use the equation and solving for k by imputting the mass of the second block. However I am not confident because the period T at 3 seconds is when the masses are added together and not just for the 2 kg mass alone.

I am fine with the algrebra if I can just start the equation. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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You have two values for T, so that's two equations. For two unknowns. A little algebra and both come out just fine !
 
Thank you for the response. Does this mean I solve both Period equations for k first then solve for mass?
 
When solving for k: k =(8pi2)/4 = 2pi2
When solving for m: m = ((kT2)/(4pi2)) - 2
 
QuantumKnight said:
When solving for k: k =(8pi2)/4 = 2pi2
When solving for m: m = ((kT2)/(4pi2)) - 2
That is not the right way to do this.

You have
T1 = 2pi*sqrt (m/k)
T2= 2pi*sqrt ((m+2)/k)
Now solve both equations for k because k is a constant and don't substitute anything in yet. Then you can set k's equal to each other and solve for m. After knowing the mass of the block you can calculate the spring constant k.
 
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Awesome, thank you
 

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