Calculating Maximum Bending Stress in Beam w/Varying Cross Section

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The discussion revolves around calculating the maximum bending stress in a beam with a varying cross section. Participants explore the meaning of the term "Sx" in the context of bending stress equations, and how to apply these concepts to a boat hull approximation treated as a beam.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on the term "Sx" in the equation σ=M/Sx, expressing confusion about its meaning and relevance.
  • Another participant suggests that "Sx" may represent the section modulus, defined as Sx=I/ymax, and notes that this notation might be more common in civil or structural engineering.
  • A participant questions how to handle a beam with a varying cross section, asking if the moment of inertia (I) should be considered only at the cross section of interest or if other portions should be taken into account.
  • It is noted that for a variable section beam, the maximum stress may not occur at the same location as the maximum bending moment, due to the potential for I to decrease faster than M along the beam.
  • Another participant confirms that Sx is indeed the section modulus and mentions its use in design rules for sizing plating-stiffener combinations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the interpretation of Sx as the section modulus, but there remains uncertainty regarding the application of moment of inertia in beams with varying cross sections and the relationship between maximum stress and maximum bending moment.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the implications of varying cross sections on the calculation of bending stress, particularly regarding the need to consider moment of inertia at different sections of the beam.

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Hi,
I'm trying to calculate the maximum bending stress in a beam with a varying cross section. I found a great resource (link below) that gives examples on how to do this but am a little confused. Basically the equation used is σ=M/Sx I know what σ and M are, but I haven't a clue what Sx is meant to be. Can anyone tell me what this is? It's kind of tough to figure our a way to google "S" and get meaningful results. Thanks!

http://www.aaronklapheck.com/Downloads/Engr112_Handouts/ENGR112%20Solutions/05-03ChapGere%5B1%5D.pdf

PS. What I'm trying to do, is calculate the maximum stress of a boat hull. I'm approximating it as a beam, but the cross section geometry is arbitrary. If anyone has any suggestions about a better way to do this, they are certainly welcome!
 
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The general formuila is $$\sigma = \frac{My}{I}$$ where y is the distance from the neutral axis.

It looks like he is combining ##I## and the maximum value of ##y## into $$S_x = \frac{I}{y_{\text{max}}}.$$ I've never seen that notation before, but then I learned how to stress beams a very long time ago!

Edit: in one of the problems in the PDF he gives it the name "section modulus". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_modulus. Looking at the references on the Wiki page, maybe it's used more as a civil or structural engineering term than in general mech eng.
 
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AlephZero said:
The general formuila is $$\sigma = \frac{My}{I}$$ where y is the distance from the neutral axis.

Thanks for you help. So if I have a beam with a varying cross section (and therefore a variable I) how do I deal with that? Can I just find I at the cross section I want to know the stress at? Or do I need to consider the moment of inertia at other portions of the beam as well?


Also wikipedia denotes the "First moment of Area" with an S. Do you think that could be what it is? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_moment_of_area

Thanks again.
 
zzinfinity said:
So if I have a beam with a varying cross section (and therefore a variable I) how do I deal with that? Can I just find I at the cross section I want to know the stress at?

Just consider I at that cross section.

But note that for a variable section beam, the maximum stress might not be at the same place as the maximum bending moment. For example I might decrease faster than M as you move along the beam, so M/I increases.

(For a constant cross section, y and I are the same everywhere along the beam so the maximum stress position is the same as the max bending moment position.)
 
Sx is the section modulus. This number is used in some design rules when sizing plating-stiffener combinations.
 

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