Calculating Maximum Current in Metal

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the maximum current that can pass through a titanium cylinder, considering various factors such as voltage, length, cross-sectional area, electrical conductivity, and temperature. Participants explore theoretical and practical aspects of this calculation, including the effects of temperature on conductivity and the implications of maximum current in different conditions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the maximum current calculation involves variables like voltage, length, cross-sectional area, and conductivity, proposing a specific equation for this purpose.
  • Another participant questions the definition of "maximum current," indicating that it depends on the temperature tolerance of the cylinder and the conditions under which it operates.
  • A further suggestion is made to set a maximum temperature tolerance (e.g., 105°C) and explore how this could be integrated into the current calculation.
  • One participant notes the complexity of determining the cooling rate, emphasizing that convection plays a significant role and suggesting that the heat equation with Joule heating could be relevant, but doubts the feasibility of solving it analytically.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on what constitutes "maximum current" and how to define it in relation to temperature limits. There is no consensus on the best approach to incorporate temperature into the current calculation or on the feasibility of solving the related equations analytically.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the need for specific assumptions about cooling rates and temperature tolerances, as well as the complexity of the equations involved, which may not yield straightforward solutions.

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Hello! A co-worker recently asked me how to calculate the maximum current through a titanium cylinder. I immediately realized there were probably many variables, likely including voltage, length, cross sectional area, and electrical conductivity.

I used wikipedia to see what I could find and it lists the electrical resistivity as being (420nΩ*meters - @20° celsius). We know electrical conductivity is defined as the inverse of the electrical resistivity, thus the conductivity must be 420nΩ(-1)*m(-1) at 20° celsius. Good so far?

So algebraically, can we solve for the maximum current by using the following equation?

[(Conductivity)*(Voltage)*(Cross-Sectional Area)]/[(Length)]=[(Current)]

If the above is a valid equation, does it merely give us a permissable current or is it truly the maximum current at a 20°C temperature? Also, let's say we have a variable temperature... for example, if our titanium cylinder is being cooled by ocean water onboard a ship, and the ship is constantly traveling. What is the rate of change based on temperature? If it is linear, we should be able to further develop our equation to account for it.


Any ideas or contributions would be highly appreciated. Thanks!
 
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"Maximum current" is not a well defined quantity. What can be considered "maximum" really depends on how hot you are prepared to let you cylinder get.

I guess one "maximum" would be the amount of current you could pass through it in ambient conditions with no forced cooling without the metal melting, but that would probably lead to a maximum where the cylinder is glowing which (presumably) is not what you want.
 
Let's pick a temperature value as a maximum temperature tolerance. Say, 105°C. Would there be a way we could incorporate this variable into our equation to give us the maximum current based on a maximum temperature allowance of 105°C?
 
You need to figure out the cooling rate. This is quite tricky since much of the cooling will be due to convection, especially for something like a cylinder.

Hence, if you are asking if one could write down the equation the answer is yes(it would be a PDE). All you need is the heat equation with Joule heating as a heat source.
However, I seriously doubt you could ever get anywhere if you actually wanted to solve this equation analytically, this is something best done using a FEM solver such as Comsol or Ansys.
 

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