Calculating Potential difference (X Ray tube)

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The discussion revolves around calculating the potential difference in an X-ray tube when electrons hit a tungsten target with a specified energy of 75 keV. Participants explore the relationship between energy in electron volts and potential difference.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conversion of energy from keV to joules and its implications for calculating potential difference. There are questions about the correct interpretation of energy units and their relationship to potential difference.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between energy and potential difference, with some participants providing insights into the conversion process. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being examined, particularly regarding the units involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of units in calculations and express confusion over the distinction between energy (in eV) and potential difference (in volts). There is a recognition that the potential difference must be calculated based on the energy provided.

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Homework Statement



If the electrons hit the tungsten target with an energy of 75 keV, find the potential difference.

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The Attempt at a Solution


I tried this: (W=eV)
V=W/Q
V=eV/Q
V=75,000/1.6*10-19
V= 4.6*1023 V,

This seems wrong because all examples in my textbook show V is in the thousands but not this big..
 
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An electron that moves through a potential difference of 1 Volt acquires kinetic energy of 1 eV. Therefore an electron that moves through a potential difference of 75 keV acquires kinetic energy of ... ?
 
kuruman said:
Therefore an electron that moves through a potential difference of 75 keV acquires kinetic energy of ... ?
Thanks for your quick reply, in the question the potential difference was not given and must be calculated. IIm just confused why you said pd of 75keV. Thanks
 
axer said:
Thanks for your quick reply, in the question the potential difference was not given and must be calculated. IIm just confused why you said pd of 75keV. Thanks
I wrote pd of 75 keV not 75 eV. Let me restate this. The kinetic energy of an electron starting from rest and moving through a pd of 1 V is 1 eV. In other words, the electron trades potential energy for kinetic energy as it moves from a region of high potential energy to a region of low potential energy. What if the acquired linetic energy is 75 keV (75,000 eV) instead of just 1 eV?
 
kuruman said:
I wrote pd of 75 keV not 75 eV. Let me restate this. The kinetic energy of an electron starting from rest and moving through a pd of 1 V is 1 eV. In other words, the electron trades potential energy for kinetic energy as it moves from a region of high potential energy to a region of low potential energy. What if the acquired linetic energy is 75 keV (75,000 eV) instead of just 1 eV?
Thanks, so by my understand of your reply, 1 eV = (1.6*10-19) (1 V)

So if we had 75,000 eV, then the potential difference is also 75,000.
Answer: 75,000 V.

Right?
 
axer said:
V=75,000/1.6*10-19
To rsetate what is being hintef at, this would be the potential difference (in volts) if the energy was 75 kJ, not 75 keV. 1 J is not 1 eV. Units are important, never neglect them and always write them out!
 
axer said:
1 eV = (1.6*10-19) (1 V)
No! Electron volts is a unit of energy, not a unit of potential difference! Units!
 
Orodruin said:
No! Electron volts is a unit of energy, not a unit of potential difference! Units!
Ok i see.. so 1 eV= 1.6*10-19 J

75 keV = 1.6*10-19 (75000)
= 1.2*10-14 J.

this is the energy in Joule of an electron with an energy of 75 keV.

If right.. How do I use it to find V?

If I am being wrong/confusing, would you please show me the answer so I can find where I am thinking wrong. Thanks!
 
So you have found that 75 keV is 1.2×10-14J. Use energy conservation and the equation W = eV that you quoted in post #1 to find V. The result may be surprising but not a coincidence.
 
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axer said:
Ok i see.. so 1 eV= 1.6*10-19 J
Right, now go back to the relation that expresses the energy gained in terms of the charge and the potential difference. What does it tell you?
axer said:
V=W/Q
 
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so V=1.2*10-14/1.6*10-19
V= 75.000 V
Oh, wait is it actually 75,000... this apply to all questions when given eV and asked to find V.

Thanks both!
 
  • #12
axer said:
so V=1.2*10-14/1.6*10-19
V= 75.000 V
Oh, wait is it actually 75,000... this apply to all questions when given eV and asked to find V.

Thanks both!
Yes, but again, always write out the units. Note that you had the right answer in #5, but you got it in a way that was not completely waterproof. Always write out your units, not only will it let you check that your answer has the correct units, but it is particularly useful to get your argument correct.
 

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