Calculating Power Radiated & Energy in Magnetic Loop

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The problem involves a loop placed in a magnetic field, connected to a light bulb, where the loop can be compressed at a constant rate. The task is to calculate the power radiated by the light bulb and the total energy emitted, while also questioning the dependence of energy on the compression rate.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive expressions for power and energy based on magnetic flux and its rate of change. They express confusion regarding the relationship between the speed of compression and energy usage, questioning why faster compression seems to result in greater energy output.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide feedback on the original poster's derivation, affirming its correctness while also addressing the confusion regarding energy consumption at different speeds. There is an exploration of the relationship between EMF, velocity, and energy dissipation, indicating a productive discussion on the topic.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of the magnetic field, the properties of the loop, and the behavior of the light bulb under varying conditions of compression. There is an implicit acknowledgment of the complexities involved in the relationship between speed and energy output.

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Homework Statement


A Loop of height L and initial width X is placed in a magnetic field and the plane of the loop is perpendicular to the field, the loop is connected to a light bulb of resistance R. By applying a force F to the left hand side of the loop it can be compressed at a constant rate dx/dt = -a.

Calculate the power radiated by the lightbulb.
Calculate the total energy emitted by the lightbulb, does it depend on a? Comment on the answer with reference to the force F.

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Homework Equations



E = - d(flux)/dt

The Attempt at a Solution



So since the flux = BA (sin90) = BA = BLx, d(flux)/dt = BLdx/dt = BLa

So E = -BLa. This means the power through the bulb = E^2/R = (B^2 L^2 a^2) / R.

And the overall energy is Power * Time = ((B^2 L^2 a^2) / R) * (X / a) = (B^2 L^2 a X) / R

And comparing this to the energy used by the force.

P = Fv = BIL a, from above the I is given by E/R = BLa/R so P = B^2 L^2 a^2 / R. So it's the same result.

However! I can't come to terms with this result, I don't see how doing it quickly will use more evergy than doing it slowly. I don't see why to the overall energy the speed, a, makes a difference?

Maybe this is trivial, or maybe I've made a mistake with the algebra, but anyone clearing this up would be most appreciated!
 
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Excellent work EEWannabe, looks great.

EEWannabe said:
However! I can't come to terms with this result, I don't see how doing it quickly will use more evergy than doing it slowly. I don't see why to the overall energy the speed, a, makes a difference?
Maybe this is trivial, or maybe I've made a mistake with the algebra, but anyone clearing this up would be most appreciated!

You've shown that the EMF is proportional to the velocity. I.e. the faster the flux changes, the more voltage is produced. On the other hand the faster it moves the less time there is to dissipate energy. BUT---the power goes as the velocity squared, while the duration decreases linearly with a; thus, overall, the energy radiated still increases with velocity.

Does that help at all?
 
Ah I've gotcha, I guess I was getting confused as I wasn't confident in the maths and I carried on thinking about the argument you outlined.

Thanks a lot for the help!
 
Happy to help; your derivation was really sharp, couldn't have been done better.
 

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