Calculating Pressure Change in Combustion Cylinder

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The discussion revolves around calculating pressure changes in a combustion cylinder under different conditions, specifically focusing on gas behavior during volume and temperature changes. The subject area includes thermodynamics and gas laws.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the ideal gas law to determine pressure changes for two scenarios involving volume and temperature variations. Some participants question the validity of using the ideal gas law at low temperatures, suggesting that real gas behavior may need to be considered.

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Participants are exploring the implications of using the ideal gas law versus real gas equations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the assumptions made in the calculations, particularly concerning the behavior of gases at low temperatures.

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There is uncertainty regarding the behavior of the gas at low temperatures, with discussions on whether the gas condenses and how that affects the application of the ideal gas law. The original poster has not provided additional experimental data, which may influence the analysis.

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1) A combustion cylinder (containing a fixed number of moles of gas initially at 9.00atm ) with a moveable piston is maintained at a constant temperature changes volume from 2.00 L to 6.0 L. Determine the change in pressure during this action.

P1 = 9.00 atm
V1 = 2.00 L
P2 = ?
V2 = 6.0 L

Use P1V1 = P2V2, where P2 = (P1*V1)/(V2) = (9.00atm*2.00L)/(6.0 L) = 3.0 atm??

delta P (change in P) = P2 - P1 = 3.0 atm - 9.00 atm = -6.0 atm?? (correct significant digits?)

2) A combustion cylinder (containing a fixed number of moles of gas initially with a pressure of 4.00atm ) with a fixed piston changes temperature from 9.00 kelvin to 4.00 kelvin. Determine the change in pressure during this action.

P1 = 4.00 atm
T1 = 9.00 K
P2 = ?
T2 = 4.00 K

Use P1/T1 = P2/T2, where P2 = (P1*T2)/(T1) = (4.00 atm)(4.00 K)/(9. 00K) = 1.7778 atm??

Change in pressure (delta P) = P2 - P1 = 1.78 atm - 4.00 atm = -2.22 atm?

Thank you for any help.
 
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i think it is ok as i don't see any mistakes.
 
The only thing to worry about is whether your gas CONDENSES as it cools to 4 Kelvin. At such low Temperatures, almost nothing acts like an IDEAL gas.
 
Well, exactly what formula/method would you use if it wasn't an ideal gas?
 
Well if he was not given any more information, you must assume it uses the ideal gas law... you would need experimental values otherwise i believe.
 
use the Van Der Waals equation for real gases.
 

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