Calculating Probability Current Density for a Wave Function

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The discussion focuses on calculating the probability current density vector j for the wave function ψ = Ae^{-(ωt-kx)}. Participants analyze the equation ∂(ψψ*)/∂t = (iħ/2m)[∂ψ/∂x ψ* - ∂ψ*/∂x ψ] and identify errors in the initial calculations. The correct expression for the probability current density is derived as j = A²v, where v is the velocity related to the wave function. The importance of ensuring that the probability current remains real is emphasized, particularly when considering complex amplitudes.

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Homework Statement



Calculate the probability current density vector \vec{j}for the wave function \psi = Ae^{-(wt-kx)}.

Homework Equations


From my very poor and beginner's understanding of probability density current it is :

\frac{d(\psi \psi^{*})}{dt}=\frac{i\hbar}{2m}[\frac{d\psi}{dx}\psi^{*}-\frac{d\psi^{*}}{dx}\psi]

The Attempt at a Solution


By applying the RHS of the above equation :

\frac{i\hbar}{2m}[-A^{2}ikxe^{-i(ωt-kx)}e^{i(ωt-kx)}-A^{2}ikxe^{i(ωt-kx)}e^{-i(ωt-kx)}]

This gives :

\frac{-2iA^{2}ik\hbar}{2m}=\frac{k \hbar A^{2}}{m}

This is not the correct answer. :( What have I done wrong ?
 
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elemis said:
\frac{d(\psi \psi^{*})}{dt}=\frac{i\hbar}{2m}[\frac{d\psi}{dx}\psi^{*}-\frac{d\psi^{*}}{dx}\psi]

This equation isn't correct. But the right hand side does represent the current density.

The Attempt at a Solution


By applying the RHS of the above equation :

\frac{i\hbar}{2m}[-A^{2}ikxe^{-i(ωt-kx)}e^{i(ωt-kx)}-A^{2}ikxe^{i(ωt-kx)}e^{-i(ωt-kx)}]

This gives :

\frac{-2iA^{2}ik\hbar}{2m}=\frac{k \hbar A^{2}}{m}

This is not the correct answer. :( What have I done wrong ?

This looks correct to me for the magnitude of the current density.
Maybe you need to express your answer as a vector.

Or, maybe you are supposed to allow A to be a complex number. If so, then A2 in your answer would need to be modified.
 
There seems to be a sign mistake - I think.
 
TSny said:
This equation isn't correct. But the right hand side does represent the current density.



This looks correct to me for the magnitude of the current density.
Maybe you need to express your answer as a vector.

Or, maybe you are supposed to allow A to be a complex number. If so, then A2 in your answer would need to be modified.

No, letting A be complex doesn't change anything.
 
dauto said:
No, letting A be complex doesn't change anything.

The probability current must be real. If A is complex (i.e., nonzero imaginary part), then A2 is also complex.
 
TSny said:
This equation isn't correct. But the right hand side does represent the current density.



This looks correct to me for the magnitude of the current density.
Maybe you need to express your answer as a vector.

Or, maybe you are supposed to allow A to be a complex number. If so, then A2 in your answer would need to be modified.

What is the correct form of the LHS of the equation ? I'm assuming the RHS is completely correct ?

I realized that \hbar k = mv = p can be substituted into the last step of my workings to obtain j = A2v which is the correct answer.




dauto said:
There seems to be a sign mistake - I think.

Where exactly ?
 
elemis said:
What is the correct form of the LHS of the equation ? I'm assuming the RHS is completely correct ?

The left hand side represents the rate of change of the probability current at some point. This should equal the negative of the divergence of the probability current vector at that point. In one dimension the gradient is just the derivative with respect to x. So, to make the equation correct, you would need to apply -d/dx to the RHS.

I realized that \hbar k = mv = p can be substituted into the last step of my workings to obtain j = A2v which is the correct answer.

Good.
 
TSny said:
The probability current must be real. If A is complex (i.e., nonzero imaginary part), then A2 is also complex.

No, A2 is not necessarily equal to A x A. It is a fairly common notation to define A2 = AA* which is real.
 
dauto said:
No, A2 is not necessarily equal to A x A. It is a fairly common notation to define A2 = AA* which is real.

That seems confusing to me. There are times when we really do want the square of a complex number z (i.e., z2) rather than the square of the magnitude (i.e., |z|2 = z*z).

But, anyway, at least we agree on the substance of the answer to the question.
 

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