Calculating Probability Current Density for a Wave Function

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The discussion revolves around calculating the probability current density vector for a given wave function. Participants are examining the application of relevant equations and the implications of complex coefficients in the context of quantum mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to apply the equation for probability current density and are questioning the correctness of their manipulations. There is discussion about the implications of treating the coefficient A as complex and how it affects the calculations.

Discussion Status

Multiple interpretations of the equations are being explored, with some participants suggesting corrections to the original equation and others affirming certain aspects of the calculations. There is no explicit consensus on the correct approach, but guidance is being offered regarding the nature of the coefficients and the representation of the current density.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating potential sign mistakes and the definitions of terms related to complex numbers, which may affect their understanding of the problem. The discussion includes considerations of how to express the probability current density as a vector and the assumptions about the nature of the wave function's coefficients.

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Homework Statement



Calculate the probability current density vector \vec{j}for the wave function \psi = Ae^{-(wt-kx)}.

Homework Equations


From my very poor and beginner's understanding of probability density current it is :

\frac{d(\psi \psi^{*})}{dt}=\frac{i\hbar}{2m}[\frac{d\psi}{dx}\psi^{*}-\frac{d\psi^{*}}{dx}\psi]

The Attempt at a Solution


By applying the RHS of the above equation :

\frac{i\hbar}{2m}[-A^{2}ikxe^{-i(ωt-kx)}e^{i(ωt-kx)}-A^{2}ikxe^{i(ωt-kx)}e^{-i(ωt-kx)}]

This gives :

\frac{-2iA^{2}ik\hbar}{2m}=\frac{k \hbar A^{2}}{m}

This is not the correct answer. :( What have I done wrong ?
 
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elemis said:
\frac{d(\psi \psi^{*})}{dt}=\frac{i\hbar}{2m}[\frac{d\psi}{dx}\psi^{*}-\frac{d\psi^{*}}{dx}\psi]

This equation isn't correct. But the right hand side does represent the current density.

The Attempt at a Solution


By applying the RHS of the above equation :

\frac{i\hbar}{2m}[-A^{2}ikxe^{-i(ωt-kx)}e^{i(ωt-kx)}-A^{2}ikxe^{i(ωt-kx)}e^{-i(ωt-kx)}]

This gives :

\frac{-2iA^{2}ik\hbar}{2m}=\frac{k \hbar A^{2}}{m}

This is not the correct answer. :( What have I done wrong ?

This looks correct to me for the magnitude of the current density.
Maybe you need to express your answer as a vector.

Or, maybe you are supposed to allow A to be a complex number. If so, then A2 in your answer would need to be modified.
 
There seems to be a sign mistake - I think.
 
TSny said:
This equation isn't correct. But the right hand side does represent the current density.



This looks correct to me for the magnitude of the current density.
Maybe you need to express your answer as a vector.

Or, maybe you are supposed to allow A to be a complex number. If so, then A2 in your answer would need to be modified.

No, letting A be complex doesn't change anything.
 
dauto said:
No, letting A be complex doesn't change anything.

The probability current must be real. If A is complex (i.e., nonzero imaginary part), then A2 is also complex.
 
TSny said:
This equation isn't correct. But the right hand side does represent the current density.



This looks correct to me for the magnitude of the current density.
Maybe you need to express your answer as a vector.

Or, maybe you are supposed to allow A to be a complex number. If so, then A2 in your answer would need to be modified.

What is the correct form of the LHS of the equation ? I'm assuming the RHS is completely correct ?

I realized that \hbar k = mv = p can be substituted into the last step of my workings to obtain j = A2v which is the correct answer.




dauto said:
There seems to be a sign mistake - I think.

Where exactly ?
 
elemis said:
What is the correct form of the LHS of the equation ? I'm assuming the RHS is completely correct ?

The left hand side represents the rate of change of the probability current at some point. This should equal the negative of the divergence of the probability current vector at that point. In one dimension the gradient is just the derivative with respect to x. So, to make the equation correct, you would need to apply -d/dx to the RHS.

I realized that \hbar k = mv = p can be substituted into the last step of my workings to obtain j = A2v which is the correct answer.

Good.
 
TSny said:
The probability current must be real. If A is complex (i.e., nonzero imaginary part), then A2 is also complex.

No, A2 is not necessarily equal to A x A. It is a fairly common notation to define A2 = AA* which is real.
 
dauto said:
No, A2 is not necessarily equal to A x A. It is a fairly common notation to define A2 = AA* which is real.

That seems confusing to me. There are times when we really do want the square of a complex number z (i.e., z2) rather than the square of the magnitude (i.e., |z|2 = z*z).

But, anyway, at least we agree on the substance of the answer to the question.
 

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